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Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 09:23:21

Murk
Level 54
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Hello all!

I'm of the opinion that Warlight has too few premodern Africa maps (zero, as far as I know).
This has several good reasons, of course: there's just too little good data to work off of, and a lot of precolonial Africa was splintered tribes with only a few unified states.

As such, I decided to make a base map of ethnicities (and/or tribes)of the entire continent, and "overlay" that base map with several bonus charts. I hope this can better reflect the historical state of Africa: mainly small groups, with as an extra bonus a few strong nations.

I could use some help, of course.
- The ethnoghraphic map is mostly based on Murdocks 1959 map. It is well known that he made some mistakes, but no one has ever been able to make a better version of it. If there's something wrong with the naming/location on my map that you know of, please tell me.
- If I've missed any big (well-documented) states on the historical charts I'd like to add those too.
- Missing connections are always welcome.
- And lastly: if everything is fine, I could always use some test players.

The map: https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=59853

Thanks!
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 09:43:06


Onoma94
Level 59
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Use different colour for territory borders, it's hard to see what they are.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 09:54:23

Murk
Level 54
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The problem there is that, since there are five different sets of bonuses, the bonuses overlap: giving them their colours would turn it into a messy jumble of colours that doesn't help clarity.

The nice thing is that once you disable all bonus sets except one, the different colours become visible! Neat-o, isn't it?

So, yeah, in preview mode, everything is green, but once you actually play a game (and disable the bonuses that you won't use), you can see each bonus colour.
- downvoted post by Jamal
- downvoted post by Jamal
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 12:58:17

Murk
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As far as I'm aware, "Caucasoid" is at most an ethno-racial term, and as such, does not belong here.

I could have made an ethnoracial bonus chart. If you had suggested that, sure, that might have had some value. (I probably wouldn't, because that's an issue that I'd want to stay faaaaar away from).
Your current suggestion, though... I'm not actually sure what you are suggesting. Are you suggesting that this is wrong because the map did not distinguish between races?
- downvoted post by Jamal
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 13:56:25

Murk
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Hm. I think a warlight map that gives territories according to race is... too sensitive for me, and probably too generalising anyway.
Even more, it would make it harder for this map to both include current and older divisions, because races have changed quite a bit in those six hundred years.

Also: I can't remember *any* warlight map having "races" as a division. Why should this one?
- downvoted post by Jamal
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 15:07:10


Cata Cauda
Level 57
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Murk, ignore Jamal. He is a known troll and alt who has been banned several times and returns to evade the bans just to shitpost more on the forum.

Apart from that the map looks awesome, but I am not quiet sure about its playability. All boni have the same color are pretty much scattered around. It's definetely not for FFAs, but rather for diplos. I looks forward to some scenario-games on it.
- downvoted post by Jamal
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 15:34:02

Murk
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Someone has to feed the trolls or they'll be hungry.

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About playability: I assume that, to make this work for FFA's or team games, you'd need to enable the "give [...] armies per territory" settings - so that income is mainly created by just conquering territories. Those few, scattered boni would then be the extra's that can make all the difference.
(As far as I know, once you disable the bonuses you don't want, the boni should get their own colours back).

It could very well be too messy to have strategic games, but I'd need to give it a few tries to be sure :)
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 16:31:54


Von Jewburg
Level 35
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This looks pretty cool. A pre-colonial historical African map has never been done.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 16:36:26


Жұқтыру
Level 55
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Very cool map, like Onoma said, but I mean disabling all boni? That's very much. And it doesn't seem to be very playable, since the boni seem to vary very much with the size.

Definitely a map like this is needed, though.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/17/2016 17:46:45

wct
Level 56
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Downvoted noisy troll comments.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/22/2016 08:55:34


Urfang
Level 55
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Beautiful map however geographical, linguistic and historical divisions not always fit to strategic divisions. Also seems a bit unbalanced but definetly beautiful. It worth a try maybe fun to play.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/22/2016 19:13:31


Ranek
Level 55
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very interesting map. I like the idea about the bonus system. do you intend to implement more bonuses? otherwise there are vast areas for each setting without income. or just giant bonuses you will probably never complete.
Africa (Ethnographic): 9/23/2016 00:33:42


{Shredtail2}
Level 56
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I'll be interested in testing the map. I like the concept.
- downvoted post by KK2nd BFD
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