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Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 10:30:36


KK2nd BFD
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A thread for traditionalists. Recommended authors: Oswald Spengler, Francis Parker Yockey, Julius Evola, Daniel Schwindt, Sorokin, De Maistre, Robert Filmer, Hobbes and Mussolini.
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 10:33:29


Von Jewburg
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I read Leviathan. A few good ideas.
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 10:36:21


KK2nd BFD
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the state by right has absolute authority and this authority demands respect
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 10:56:58


GeneralPE
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Leviathan was good, but for me Liberty or Equality was easier and better
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 18:21:21

[FEL]Chatul
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^^LOL we actually agree on this point. However people shouldn't worship the state or its leaders though. It does need to be respected in the form of citizens obeying laws. At the same time the state should be a democracy and be transparent on most of its affairs to prevent corruption. (The military and intelligence agencies are necessary and they inherently can not and should not be transparent).

I'm in favor of a state with no unnecessary laws and all necessary laws taught to all citizens and enforced. The criminal laws for example should be simple. Just no murder, no battery, no larceny, etc. On the other hand, knowingly transport invasive species for example should not be a criminal offense (this is actually a federal crime now).

All political parties that respect the constitution of the state should be allowed. On the other hand, Communist parties, Nazi parties, Islamist parties, Monarchist parties, separatist parties etc should not be allowed since there is no reason parties that do not respect the republic should be allowed to participate in activities of the republic. Just like a monarchy sometimes does not allow Republican parties to protect itself, there is no reason a republic should allow parties against itself to participate in its affairs. Instead they should be treated as enemies of the state and banned.

Edited 9/23/2016 18:32:19
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 18:29:11


KK2nd BFD
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Buzz off jew
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 18:35:09

wct
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Instead of replying to ^, just dv it. (Sad that the OP is the first to troll in his own thread.)
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 18:35:37

[FEL]Chatul
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^Meow I'm in fact a statist. Just not a far left, far right or Islamist state. Instead a reasonable and mostly libertarian state that can temporarily restrict freedom for the sake of more future freedom is good.

Edited 9/23/2016 18:36:44
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:05:52


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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''Just not a far left''

topkek

>wants to force leftist ideals down peoples throats
>isn't far left
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:08:12

[FEL]Chatul
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^Far left does not support felinism.

The left does not like my views either. I'm anti abortion and do not agree with them on racial issues either. They want black victimhood to be perpetuated while I try to remove blacks from the Democrat Plantation.

Edited 9/23/2016 19:10:03
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:10:00


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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you're a leftist
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:10:34

[FEL]Chatul
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^Not really. You can also call me a rightist for absolutely oppose abortion. My social views are usually more rightist than leftist except for in the case of family which I absolutely oppose more than anyone. Leftists do not support Israel either while I absolutely do.

Edited 9/23/2016 19:13:50
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:13:48


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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you're a democrat, you're a leftist by default.
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:14:16

[FEL]Chatul
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^Really? I support Republicans and Libertarians. I support the current Republican Governor of Massachusetts. America needs a slight shift towards the right just not too much.

Massachusetts has too many Democrats but they do not seem to do a lot of harm here since we are a good state. Baltimore on the other hand, does need to be fixed. I did not feel safe there in 2012 and certainly will not feel safe if I go there again.

Edited 9/23/2016 19:17:51
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:15:48


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>not understanding the definition of democrat in this context

keklmao

Also the parties you listed are democratic

Edited 9/23/2016 19:16:11
Traditionalist thread: 9/23/2016 19:16:58

[FEL]Chatul
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^Oh I see. Sure!

Edited 9/23/2016 19:19:08
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