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Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:35:22


Paugers
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Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:38:17

[FEL]Chatul
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Yeshua is Jewish so do the early Shlichim.:-)

Edited 9/23/2016 19:39:04
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:38:57


Paugers
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No
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:39:43

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^Sorry but you are deluding yourself. It's fine if you are a national socialist. However you need to get facts right. You can downplay uncomfortable facts but you should not pretend that they do not exist.

Edited 9/23/2016 19:40:57
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:47:42


Paugers
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You're deluded
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:48:30

[FEL]Chatul
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^You are. Just look at the Bible. How are Yeshua and the shlichim goyyim?
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:49:24


Paugers
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You're deluded
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:50:02

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^You are.
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:50:05


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Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:50:51

[FEL]Chatul
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Christianity is the sect of Second Temple Judaism that believes that Yeshua of Netzaret is the Mashiach.
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:51:05


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Muh Jewgle says so durrr
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 19:53:03

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^No. This is reality.

There is no Biblical Christianity outside Judaism. Rabbinical Jews consider Christianity to be a heresy that is later largely ethnically non-Jewish which does not actually objectively make it a non-Jewish religion. In fact Biblical Christianity is a reasonable (but very demanding) Jewish sect. Later Gentile Christianity is actually something else.

There are people who believe that Chabad is not Jewish either for a similar reason (some Chabadniks believe that their Seventh Rebbe is the Mashiach and is actually still alive) but Chabad is still objectively a Jewish sect.

Edited 9/23/2016 19:57:16
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 20:29:04


Жұқтыру
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Jesus in Europe and America is whiteskin. In Ethiopia, he's brownskin. More weightly,

who cares?
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 20:29:06


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Jesus in Europe and America is whiteskin. In Ethiopia, he's brownskin. More weightly,

who cares?
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 20:36:53

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^How can someone be of whatever color people want him to be?
Yeshua is Jewish, probably close to modern Sephardic Jews in genetics.

This is just being true to facts.

Edited 9/23/2016 20:37:55
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 20:43:11


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I agree but who cares? We don't even any photographs or drawings made in Jesus's lifetime so we can't really know what he looks like in any case.
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 20:56:52

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^There are several reasons why Islam is much more homogeneous than Christianity. One key reason is that later Gentile Christians discard the Jewish culture and Hebrew but instead use Greek, Roman and other Gentile languages for religious purposes. If every religious term remains untranslated bit instead transliterated Hebrew it would have been hard to distort the religion. Islam does manage to make Muslims stick to Arabic and use transliterated Arabic for religious terms but not their translations.

Well seriously we do not know whether he actually existed for sure. But according to the existing sources if he exists he is Jewish.

Edited 9/23/2016 21:00:07
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 21:01:48

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There are even some KJV-only radical Christians who are absolutely impossible to reason with in terms of Hebrew Scriptures being more accurate than KJV. I talked to one online when I was Messianic. The conversation was outright crazy. Yeah Hebrew Scriptures are actually less accurate than...a translation many years later called the KJV which has many Hebrew transliterations completely wrong.

For example there is actually no place called "Jerusalem". In actual Hebrew (well even this word was horribly transliterated, it is 'Ivrit) it is called Yerushalayim. This is actually not a result of Hebrew getting influenced by Aramaic. I believe in Biblical Hebrew it should be called something similar if not outright the same.

Another example is the name Hanoch. Well many people probably will not recognize this name since the popular transliteration is "Enoch". There is actually a hey in Hanoch. Why is it dropped? It's not that in English there is no "H" sound.

Then we have "Solomon". There is no n or anything remotely like that at the end of Shin-Lamed-Mem which is actually Shlomo.

There is also a place called.."Babylon" which is nowhere to be found. Real Semitic peoples never call it by that weird name. Babylon is really just Babel or Bavel or Babil etc. Even right now Babil still exists as a governate of Iraq. "Babylon" and "Babel" are really just the same place.

We also see "Armegeddon" which is really Har Megiddo, the hill of Megiddo, a place that actually exists in Israel right now.

Why do these kinds of mistransliterations get passed on and almost never get corrected? Lol Adam and "Eve". Yeah Adam is an actual Hebrew name but "Eve" is really Chavvah. There is no "Euphrates", no "Babylon" and no "Solomon". Sorry. I still do not understand why Gentile Christianity an outrageous level of mistransliteration, admits that earlier translators made some mistakes and correct them. That's really not hard at all. We all make mistakes and there is nothing wrong with correcting them.

Edited 9/23/2016 21:17:55
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 21:31:41


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There are several reasons why Islam is much more homogeneous than Christianity. One key reason is that later Gentile Christians discard the Jewish culture and Hebrew but instead use Greek, Roman and other Gentile languages for religious purposes. If every religious term remains untranslated bit instead transliterated Hebrew it would have been hard to distort the religion. Islam does manage to make Muslims stick to Arabic and use transliterated Arabic for religious terms but not their translations.

There are even some KJV-only radical Christians who are absolutely impossible to reason with in terms of Hebrew Scriptures being more accurate than KJV. I talked to one online when I was Messianic. The conversation was outright crazy. Yeah Hebrew Scriptures are actually less accurate than...a translation many years later called the KJV which has many Hebrew transliterations completely wrong.

For example there is actually no place called "Jerusalem". In actual Hebrew (well even this word was horribly transliterated, it is 'Ivrit) it is called Yerushalayim. This is actually not a result of Hebrew getting influenced by Aramaic. I believe in Biblical Hebrew it should be called something similar if not outright the same.

Another example is the name Hanoch. Well many people probably will not recognize this name since the popular transliteration is "Enoch". There is actually a hey in Hanoch. Why is it dropped? It's not that in English there is no "H" sound.

Then we have "Solomon". There is no n or anything remotely like that at the end of Shin-Lamed-Mem which is actually Shlomo.

There is also a place called.."Babylon" which is nowhere to be found. Real Semitic peoples never call it by that weird name. Babylon is really just Babel or Bavel or Babil etc. Even right now Babil still exists as a governate of Iraq. "Babylon" and "Babel" are really just the same place.

We also see "Armegeddon" which is really Har Megiddo, the hill of Megiddo, a place that actually exists in Israel right now.

Why do these kinds of mistransliterations get passed on and almost never get corrected? Lol Adam and "Eve". Yeah Adam is an actual Hebrew name but "Eve" is really Chavvah. There is no "Euphrates", no "Babylon" and no "Solomon". Sorry. I still do not understand why Gentile Christianity an outrageous level of mistransliteration, admits that earlier translators made some mistakes and correct them. That's really not hard at all. We all make mistakes and there is nothing wrong with correcting them.


Holy crap, I don't like to say that folk put words in my mouth (since they generally don't and even when they do, it doesn't oft matter), but Tabby puts a whole load of words in my mouth.

Tabby ultratroll, answer me this. Where said I or how relates it that
*Islam is much more homogeneous than Christianity.
*doubting that Jesus ever was
*wrongness of traductions
*other autonyms
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 21:34:16


Major General Smedley Butler
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Jesus never existed, I am Жұқтыру and I assure this message.
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 22:22:18


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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video from 3 years ago ... lel.

second isn't there a drawing by Daniel when he saw Jesus?
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 22:28:46

[FEL]Chatul
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^^I'm not sure.

I will say that from an objective point of view we don't have enough evidence to support the hypothesis that Yeshua existed. However it is certainly possible for him to have existed.

^Daniel? Which Daniel?

Edited 9/23/2016 22:29:04
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 22:29:55

[FEL]Chatul
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@Juq I did not put words into your mouth. This is my usual venting on how tradition distorts human view of reality.

Edited 9/23/2016 22:30:18
Santa and Jesus are white, not penguins.: 9/23/2016 23:25:18


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ooga booga
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