Stop gov't growth - I doubt he'd do that

Did you read the link? Not hiring new employees is a good way to cut down

Withdraw from TPP, change NAFTA - change NAFTA how?

He didn't say exactly what he would change to be fair, but in terms of method he would either leave or renegotiate.

Other trade specifics - This is unspecific, ironically
National security specifics - Unspecific

See link for more

Suspend immigration from terrorist hotspots - Nothing other presidents haven't done

Obama hasn't

Create Crime Task Force - Why?

Drugs mostly

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Stop gov't growth (nice, although i will note that basically every single republican president since the new deal has said this and not actually done it)

He has a real plan tho, he won't hire any new employees

Eliminate regulation/executive orders
(not sure what this is supposed to mean, but I seriously doubt he's going to eliminate executive orders as an executive power if that's what you're implying)

For each new regulation, two go. And I meant Obama's illegal executive orders

Cut lobbyist power (not sure how he would do this without more campaign finance restrictions, which come with their own set of problems)

See link, mostly saying ppl can't go straight from gov't to lobbying

Build the wall, keep out illegals (what a waste of money)

lol yh dude preserving the nation state is a waste of money

Suspend immigration from terrorist hotspots (honestly a few terrorist attacks on the us a year aren't a threat, passing up the opportunity to have millions more citizens worth of economic growth is)

>implying millions is a lot
>implying it won't also help with preserving our culture
>implying refugees will expand economy
I kek'd

National security specifics (which ones?)

Read link.

For the trade issues, I see where you are coming from and mostly agree tbh, but we need to do something about losing manufacturing.

@ Imperator

Who Scalia replaces is not something the campaign share though.

He has a real plan tho, he won't hire any new employees

Honestly I'll believe it when I see it. As I said, previous republican presidents don't give me much hope.

For each new regulation, two go. And I meant Obama's illegal executive orders

As far as I can tell, presidents can pretty much do whatever they want with executive orders, not sure if obama has made any illegal ones though.

See link, mostly saying ppl can't go straight from gov't to lobbying

In that case, it's unconstitutional as a violation of the first amendment right to petition.

lol yh dude preserving the nation state is a waste of money

Right now birth rates in the US are unsustainable, more people are dying than are being born. The only way the us can continue to grow is through immigration. To be honest a lovely solution would be for everyone to have five or six children, but instead people decided it would be a great idea to only have 1.88 children. "Preserving the nation state" involves making sure there are actually people in the nation, and honestly I don't care if they're mexicans, syrians, chinese, irish, pakistani, or german, we need people, and since people are refusing to have enough children, immigration is looking like the way to fill future generations of americans with people.

>implying millions is a lot

6 million internally displaced syrians + 6 million displaced out of the country = 12 million dudes/women/children, or 3% of the current us population of 319 million. In other words yeah, it's a lot.

>implying it won't also help with preserving our culture

Hey, I'm up for shifting american culture to be more conservative by throwing a few conservative muslims into the mix.

>implying refugees will expand economy

3% more people would seem to logically add 3% more on to the economy, which would currently be about $510 billion, but even if they're all literally dirt poor and only manage to add 1% on, it's still $170 billion. And if you think that's a number to scoff at, please give me 170 billion dollars so that your unimaginable riches can actually be appreciated by someone.

For the trade issues, I see where you are coming from and mostly agree tbh, but we need to do something about losing manufacturing.

Not really, america is moving on to more lucrative jobs than sitting around all day making clothes, like no joke you can make literally 15x as much as the average bangladeshi worker by flipping burgers at mcdonalds (and this is considered a really low paying and embarrassing job by the way).

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Term limits - This is something that sounds nice, but inexperience is usually bad for the political process and term limits tend to restrict the ability of government to compromise. I'm against this.

Stop gov't growth - bit of a misrepresentation of his actual position. I'm not a huge fan of blanket hiring freezes, and I think his hiring freeze's exemptions make it a bit of an empty gesture, but I don't see anything else wrong with it.

Eliminate regulation/executive orders - I think his "eliminate regulation" stance is too extreme, and he says nothing about eliminatng executive orders, unless you mean cancelling Obama's executive orders, which one would expect from an opposition candidate.

Cut lobbyist power - Yes, please

Withdraw from TPP, change NAFTA - I'm ok with this.

Other trade specifics - I asume you're talking about him vaguely ordering departments to search for "abuses" and labelling China a currency manipulator. I really think this is just empty talk.

Allow energy expansion - Sounds like someone doesn't believe in climate change. I'm not a huge fan of this, as I think it would move our energy production in the wrong direction.

Redirect UN climate change money - I think we could fix the infrastructure without hurting the environment.

Replace Scalia - Should've been Garland, I don't always agree with Trump's judges, but I have nothing against them specifically and the spot needs to be filled.

Build the wall, keep out illegals - Hah. The wall is an impossible bad idea. I support removing the criminals and such, though.

Suspend immigration from terrorist hotspots - Already the case.

Bring back business - watch them prices rise. Basically a sales tax.

Lower taxes - Watch out for that deficit tho.

Rebuild infrastructure - Sure ("revenue neutral" XD)

Revamp education system - Why are tuition charging private schools going to be given government money that is taken away from free public schools? Thank god Common Core is gone, though.

Create Crime Task Force - If it was free, go for it. Since it isn't this is a resounding meh, ok.

National security specifics - Lots of money spent here.

Clean up DC - Really unspecific. Would like to see an actual plan before I judge this.

I'm up for shifting american culture to be more conservative by throwing a few conservative muslims into the mix.

As those wiser than me say, "A muslim is not an infidel.". And America's culture is deeply rooted in infideality tshhh

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The thing is, Reagan wanted to limit government size too. Did he do it? Not exactly. And Trump is trying to emulate Reagan, so I could see the same process being repeated here.

3% more people would seem to logically add 3% more on to the economy, which would currently be about $510 billion, but even if they're all literally dirt poor and only manage to add 1% on, it's still $170 billion. And if you think that's a number to scoff at, please give me 170 billion dollars so that your unimaginable riches can actually be appreciated by someone.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

170 billion/ 12 million = $14,166

But where does that $14,166 come from exactly...?

I mean, as it is, 47% of the US is already on some form of welfare.

And it's not like we don't have enough people to fill up the jobs. If the governmeny forced people to move away from the shore (which is overpopulated) into other more inland/ north central areas (where there are jobs) we could give everyone in America jobs.

Some of the economical problems America is facing come from people living in the wrong part of the country.

As far as I can tell, presidents can pretty much do whatever they want with executive orders, not sure if obama has made any illegal ones though.

If that were true they would just be dictators. Obama has made plenty of illegal ones

Right now birth rates in the US are unsustainable, more people are dying than are being born. The only way the us can continue to grow is through immigration. To be honest a lovely solution would be for everyone to have five or six children, but instead people decided it would be a great idea to only have 1.88 children. "Preserving the nation state" involves making sure there are actually people in the nation, and honestly I don't care if they're mexicans, syrians, chinese, irish, pakistani, or german, we need people, and since people are refusing to have enough children, immigration is looking like the way to fill future generations of americans with people.

1. Population loss is not a huge issue compared to the downfall of the West, due to mechanisation and robots. 2. Nation-states by definition cannot be multi-cultural, you cuck.

6 million internally displaced syrians + 6 million displaced out of the country = 12 million dudes/women/children, or 3% of the current us population of 319 million. In other words yeah, it's a lot.

I meant millions of dollars in economic growth. Also, do you really expect refugees to be as productive as whites in America?

Hey, I'm up for shifting american culture to be more conservative by throwing a few conservative muslims into the mix.

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Opinion on Trump's Manifesto (point by point):
1) Good idea in practice, but seems more like a political ploy to take down old and powerful Democratic Congressmen (not referring to all Democrats, and this would also affect Republicans).
2) Stalin does not approve of stealing his ideas.
3) Quite arbitrary.
4) Violation of 1st Amendment, technically.
5) Sure, although could just be a political tool to remove dissent from high ranking positions.
6) Sure.
7) Just because someone intends to do something doesn't think they will do it. On the plan to renegotiate NAFTA, I would rather stick with the current plan.
8) Eh... no comment.
9) We do trade with China.. so labeling China as a currency manipulator would not be the best move.
10) So many diplomatic repercussions.
11) Meh. Oil could be very profitable, but green energy would be much more beneficial in the long run- climate change or not.
12) Sure, but tax profits to promote more green energy.
13) Diplomatic repercussions...
14) It is a matter of perspective on what to change. It could be argued that all orders were constitutional.
15) Let Obama select it...
16) No. They do not have a huge effect on crime.
17) Good luck with displacing two million people by having 58 immigration courts.
18) Already done.
19) Not well versed in economics, so no comment.
20) No comment
21) Expensive and very time-consuming
22) No comment
23) Would rather trust govt. with healthcare than companies.
24) "
25) No. Building a wall would be very costly to try and stop the supply of immigration. Rather, the US should give aid to the governments in the region in order to try and improve the conditions in the region.
26) No. Current police forces are sufficient.
27) "What's that in the distance?" "Oh, that's the growing American deficit"
28) The Great Purge (Michael Bay Edition) is upon us!

If that were true they would just be dictators

Well, we did have a dictator, his name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. You could probably say Woodrow Wilson was too, on account of a stroke possibly being what took him out of the race instead of him serving two terms.

Also, do you really expect refugees to be as productive as whites in America?

If you refuse to give them welfare, they probably will be. Then they'll have to work for a living, instead of being able to leech off the leech.

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don't ever say "hey guis pls take srs i am srs"

170 billion/ 12 million = $14,166

But where does that $14,166 come from exactly...?

This is assuming that every single refugee will be dirt poor and working at mcdonalds, $14K is the annual salary for a crew member.

Obviously this is a fairly racist assumption, given that arabs in america and europe are known for being resourceful and starting businesses, not for being lazy bums and working part time at mcdonalds. 1% economic growth is the bare minimum you can possibly get by adding 3% more people.

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Honestly if you're going to refuse to respond to my posts, there's no discussion to be had.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8dCYocuyI

idk why people even still support the wall

Honestly if you're going to refuse to respond to my posts, there's no discussion to be had.

Your post was not an argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU8dCYocuyI

idk why people even still support the wall

Because John Oliver is a fucking retard

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