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Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 11:14:32


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Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe by defending borders against refugees - Orban


"During the commemoration of an anti-communist uprising in 1956, Hungary’s prime minister said his nation must stand up to the “Sovietization” of Europe by defending its borders against migrants, leading to brawls between his supporters and opponents." -RT news article

Thoughts: Good job Hungary
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 13:36:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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The Soviet Islamic Caliphate must be stopped
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 13:56:46


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The Prime Minister was referencing Sovietization as being controlled by EU sand forcing to take in migrants, not Soviet Islam.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 16:28:39


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Hungarians who don't think Islamic migrants should be let in clearly forget the times when there were Hungarian migrants who were evicted from Hungary by the Nazis, in WWII.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 17:13:17

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^There are differences. I will let black African (Ertrean etc) immigrants in. However I won't let all Islamic ones in.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 17:15:19


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@Ox, The difference is, they're an islamic people. If they weren't weirdos who worshipped a pedophile lunatic, I'd think more people would be fine with letting them in. Every country that is flooded with authoritarians, becomes an authoritarian country.

Edited 10/24/2016 17:16:27
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 17:20:44

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^Well that's the difference. If they all keep their Islam to themselves and not promote Sharia there would have been no problem. Remember the Indian Hindus in UK and Vietnamese in France. There are no problems about them because they function in their respective societies.

I'm pretty sure most people would have been fine with Muslim refugees if there had been no rapes, terrorist attacks, etc commited by them. These people are responsible for promoting xenophobia throughout planet earth and have harmed normal people (such as Poles and Romanians in UK).

Edited 10/24/2016 17:22:35
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 18:42:42


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^^^YOU LET ERITREANS IN? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU! SEND THEM TO FUCKING NORTH KOREA

Edit: Eritrea is nothing like DPRK. Eritrea is to DPRK as DPRK is to Denmark. For them, DPRK is like heaven. North Koreans will have 2 countries on their maps-A dictatorship of torture and of course North Korea. If we let them here, they die of shock. And Isaias's guards might try and take over UK. And that would be terrible. I think we should assassinate Afwerki tho. 6.3 million will be better off

Edited 10/25/2016 10:09:06
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 18:59:28

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^Nah let them in temporarily. They are fleeing from the freaky regime of Isaias Afwerki. They literally live in a nation comparable to North Korea.

PoF why do you sound like Karl now, may I ask?

Edited 10/24/2016 19:00:55
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:31:50


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Like Russia wants Syrian refugees.
I don't remember the Soviets ever being keen on allowing anyone to waltz into their country, especially the devout.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:34:21


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Hungarians who don't think Islamic migrants should be let in clearly forget the times when there were Hungarian migrants who were evicted from Hungary by the Nazis, in WWII.

There's a difference between being forcibly evicted from the place you were born and have lived in for years, and then being forced to let in massive numbers of people who have different culture and morals than you. Add in your country not being financially able to handle it all on top of that.

The only similarity in this comparison is that it involves an outside power trying to force its will on the native born citizens of Hungary.

Edited 10/24/2016 20:35:06
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:35:58


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Soviet Islamic Caliphate


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Flag_of_Afghanistan_%281978-1980%29.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Afghanistan_%281978-1980%29.svg.png

clearly rapefugees by the writing but also filthy communists so there you have it Soviet Islaam.

Like Russia wants Syrian refugees.


Like it or not, Russia's taken in loads more refugees than most European countries.

There's a difference between being forcibly evicted from the place you were born and have lived in for years, and then being forced to let in massive numbers of people who have different culture and morals than you.


The only difference is in outlook.

Add in your country not being financially able to handle it all on top of that.


1. Hungary is a first world country, they can handle it if they can "handle" building stadions in the middle of nowhere; it's a smaller one, but noone is forecasting that it will take in the bulk in any case anyway.
2. Any new blood is an economic goodgain, bringing more money and workers. Even with the little welfare Hungary has, it's wasting money, then there's a very easy answer to this - cut or lower welfare for these new ones. Better yet cut or lower welfare for all since Hungarians can be sucking on the system just as much as the newcomers.

The only similarity in this comparison is that it involves an outside power trying to force its will on the native born citizens of Hungary.


Uh how about a bloothristy country invading Iraq, Syria, Libya?

Edited 10/24/2016 20:44:56
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:47:21

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Nobody should be forced to let anyone in. However when one has the ability one probably should let some African refugees in.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:53:22


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it's written rapefugees*
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:56:10

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^Nah I mean sub-Saharan African ones.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 20:58:17


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it's written rapefugees*
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 21:21:14


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Why the hell would the migrants choose Russia over France or Belgium?

It's cold, the women aren't slutty, there's still a big religious group that holds some power (not sure how much influence the Orthodox Church has (a Russian's getting 5 years jail for playing Pokemon Go in his church), no free welfare, and Russia is top tier kebab remover. That's one of the worst places you could go if you're a refugee.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 21:25:36


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Americacentrism intensifies
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 21:34:11


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Ox being a cuck once again
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 22:19:24


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Don't mind it at all.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 22:34:15


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Why the hell would the migrants choose Russia over France or Belgium?


Mainly easier to get in (worse/less bordering).

It's cold


much better weather than what's in France, and Belgique. And Russia is also hot, it's a very big country and it's weather record for hot ties with France and is bigger than Belgique's.

the women aren't slutty


The Muslimas* aren't, but it's mostly untrue otherwise.

still a big religious group that holds some power


It's basically the same in other countries. The laws are based on mores that the society holds that one culture/faith holds.

no free welfare


...you really think that? A country of free higher learning and healthcare?

http://yanashel.com/?q=Social+Welfare+in+the+Russian+Federation

top tier kebab remover


the kebab is not removed, so clearly not top tier. Also Arabs hated then kebabs, too, and Russia helped them out every now and then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Revolt
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/24/2016 23:13:36


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Hmm. Good to know.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 01:23:04


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There's a difference between being forcibly evicted from the place you were born and have lived in for years, and then being forced to let in massive numbers of people who have different culture and morals than you

Yeah in the first one the difference is that you're the one suffering, the other is where someone else is suffering. You're acting like a switching of roles makes it a completely different situation.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 01:58:27


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It's more complex than that. Nobody is obligated to take in refugees.It's nice if you do, but none should be coerced into it. For some countries taking in a tidal waves of immigrants that probably won't assimilate causes more problems than it solves.

Yeah, it sucks that people suffer. But you can't always help everyone, especially when you're struggling to meet the needs of your own citizens.

Aside from that, who are you to tell the people of Hungary they MUST accept migrants? It's their country, their business.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 02:00:26

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^I agree. Former Eastern Bloc countries are less heterogeneous than Western European ones. They are probably afraid of so many migrants.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 02:00:41


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It's more complex than that. Nobody is obligated to take in refugees.It's nice if you do, but none should be coerced into it

I don't think Ox was saying that they should be forced to take them in, more that there were once tons of Hungarian refugees so Hungary should take in refugees in return.
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 02:06:41

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^Not necessarily. If you force these small Balkan and Eastern European countries to take in refugees it will only generates more racism in the long run. These countries are traditionally homogeneous, conservative and xenophobic.

Serbia for example already has a president from a far right party. When you let Muslim refugees (these nations usually hate Muslims by the way since they were occupied by Ottoman Empire) in you generate even more hatred.

Don't try to ignite the Balkan Powder keg again. We already have enough of that.

Edited 10/25/2016 02:09:06
Hungary must fight "Sovietization" of Europe: 10/25/2016 02:17:34


Жұқтыру
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Yeah, it sucks that people suffer. But you can't always help everyone, especially when you're struggling to meet the needs of your own citizens.


1. Most every country barely cares about their denizens.
2. This pardon is really only works for China, India, Indonesia, maybe Brazil, and most Africa. Even then, as aforesaid, much of the grounds why these countries are such crap are their governments not caring for their denizens. Which is happening in Hungary as well.

Being free, if the country does not have over 1% its population over the 3.1$ each day, this excuse works. Which is most countries: China, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, and Mexico (together more than half the world's population). Even Hungary would likely be put in, but rest of Euroband and America have no pardon like this.

who are you to tell the people of Hungary they MUST accept migrants?


It's a moral call, to do to your neighbour what wants to be done to you.
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