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Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:17:52


Nex
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While things have improved noticeably on all (non-off-topic) forums, we still have a lot of trolls plaguing our community. I have done my research and have realized there is an effective way to shut them off.

To start, let's take a look at their profiles and see if there are any common themes.

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7249243039

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6371883586

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3324352160

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9848136060

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1444521644

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7537521691



Take a look at the data provided, and see if any recurring themes are present.

Notice, for example, that many of our forum trolls actually aren't even playing Warlight.

Points earned in last 30 days: 0


Isn't that something? Our Warlight trolls can't even be bothered to play the game. Fascinating. And those that do:

This player has been booted 512 times (38%)
This player has been booted 95 times (32.4%)
This player has been booted 45 times (11.9%)
This player has been booted 33 times (16.6%)
This player has been booted 6 times (20%)
This player has been booted 153 times (19.1%)



Based on the data above, and a statistical goal to eliminate unnecessary trolling, I propose two amendments to the forum requirements:

1) A player must earn >0 points in the last thirty days, and

2) must have a boot rate lower than 10%. C'mon. Double digits is nonsense.

If we do this, we get rid of the worst offenders, at least until they learn to actually play the game.

Edited 11/8/2016 04:18:07
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:42:28


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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2) must have a boot rate lower than 10%. C'mon. Double digits is nonsense.


... :(

also. they could just surrender in games with each other.

Edited 11/8/2016 04:45:56
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:45:35


Master Turtle 
Level 61
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I have a 10% boot rate :/
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:46:16


[FEL]Spider Cat
Level 22
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Or you could, y'know, ignore them

But I do agree with you on bootrates. tbh above 5 is unacceptable

Edited 11/8/2016 04:46:43
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:47:24


Nex
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Several of my alts have boot rates above 10% too, sadly. They would be eliminated from the forums, but it would be for a worthy cause.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:51:29


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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I mean. i don't think you understand how far they will go. i can see them all making new accounts. or get squiggles to spam games so they can get low boot rates.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 04:56:32


TBest 
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Points earned in last 30 days: 0
Em, games can last more then 30 days...and this might also mean Diplo/FFA players who don't win games gets excluded too.
And SP level players.

the Boot Filter thing sounds arbitrary. It is in no way directly connected to forum posting.

aka, Good Idea to require game activity to post, but the suggested implementation don't work.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 05:01:51


Zephyrum 
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>implying forum trolling isn't more fun than playing friggin risk
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 07:17:04


[FEL] The Prince of Felidia
Level 55
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boot rate 8.5. MOst from diplos with VTB. Some from 6 months ago when I began playing
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 07:25:45


knyte 
Level 58
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another commonality: https://www.warlight.net/Clans/?ID=253

Honestly, though, if Fizzer gave a damn, there's plenty of data right now for supervised learning if he wants to eliminate the human decision-making. Just find frequent authors of heavily-downvoted posts, ID3 that shit, and you've got a troll detection algorithm on your hands.

The thing is he doesn't give a fuck. Just embrace it and your life will be a lot nicer.

Edited 11/8/2016 07:27:14
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 08:23:48


master of desaster 
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Don't post nonstop shit on the off-topic forum. With 2k points gained in 30 days you aren't playing warlight, are basically inactive

-MoD, 2015
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 10:51:53


Des {TJC}
Level 58
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Heres an issue with the below double digit boot rate.

PEOPLE ARE ASSHOLES AND DONT ACCEPT YOUR SURRENDER.

Sincerely,
Guy who's had it happen A LOT
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 12:02:52


Onoma94
Level 59
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Lol get off Von Jewburg, his posts are more entertaining than 95% of the forum gunk.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 15:04:22


Benjamin628 
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@Des Horrible excuse. Look at the message whenever you surrender.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 16:27:15


Radoverlord
Level 30
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10% (boot rate) is to low but I agree you should at least earn 1,000 points in 30 days...

Edited 11/8/2016 16:27:33
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 17:14:14


Von Jewburg
Level 35
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I'll admit my bootrate is bad. But I suck at this game. But thanks for calling me a troll.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 18:44:35


Belgian Gentleman
Level 55
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Isn't that something? Our Warlight trolls can't even be bothered to play the game. Fascinating


THEY LIKE TRUMP SO THEY LIKE DERAILING THINGS

1) A player must earn >0 points in the last thirty days


It's easy to by-pass this so-called amendment. If it was put into effect, would it change a thing? Probably not.


2) must have a boot rate lower than 10%. C'mon. Double digits is nonsense.


ヽ(`▭´)ノ︵ ┻━┻

we still have a lot of trolls plaguing our community.


SPEAK FOR YOURSELF ASSHOLEEEEEE !!!!!!
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 18:55:35


Nex
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I might be a troll too sometimes, but at least I do some good things for this community. At least I actually play the game. I'll be the first to admit I'm not a perfect person, or even a decent person sometimes, but my goal isn't to sabotage this community. We don't have that in common.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 20:05:38


Belgian Gentleman
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Sabotage. We don't have that in common.


oh damn.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 20:12:30

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
Level 51
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The main harmful posters are Karl, The Lord and Bane. These psychopaths should be permanently banned from WL.

The problem is not their views. The problem is their personalities and tendencies to delight in others' pain. You can have even more radical views such as what Paugers has without being a bad person.

Edited 11/8/2016 20:14:11
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/8/2016 23:41:24

Gar
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Woah woah woah... slow down here. My boot rate is 33%! I didn't even think it was that high until you start calling people out on 10% boot rates!
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 00:38:01


Nex
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Mr. Gar, I'm not sure we've met. So, hi, first. :)

So, the thing about boot rates:

A boot rate in competitive games is going to directly, and negatively, impact your potential earnings. Let's say that in reality you're a 2000 rated player on the 1v1 ladder, which puts you around 17th on the ladder right now. But if your boot rate is 10%, you lose 10% of your games, and therefore get 10% less of your potential rating -- this pushes you 200 points lower, to 1800. So instead of 17th on the 1v1 ladder today, you would be rated 1800, which is roughly 51st on the ladder. It's a massive difference. And anything above that is even worse.

For every game you join, you have to own up to the result. You --have-- to stick with it to the end, and if it's a loss, you surrender when appropriate. A high boot rate is a sign of carelessness. A sign that you do not believe a game is important. It's a sign that you might join a game and then not believe it is at all important to you. And, since we're on this subject, I'll fully admit that my two active alts, Fateless and The Final, Forbidden Knowledge are both above 10% boot rate right now, due to my past mistakes. I neglected my alts, among other things, and it shows in my accounts' results... this is not a philosophy I have always followed, but it is one that I choose to accept and expect.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 02:20:50


Anglo
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Nice one, please come up with more conclusive evidence of 'Trolls' rather than saying "oh my god, look at how much they play this dying game!"
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 03:47:10


Taran
Level 55
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you lose 10% of your games

But is 8.8% really that far off from 10%? When you're below 3.0%, we can discuss bootrates
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 04:19:47


Nex
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Lol. It's not double digits. As said, I'm not perfect. :)
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 15:07:47


GeneralPE
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Honestly, though, if Fizzer gave a damn, there's plenty of data right now for supervised learning if he wants to eliminate the human decision-making. Just find frequent authors of heavily-downvoted posts, ID3 that shit, and you've got a troll detection algorithm on your hands.

kek. This would just make it so anyone who has an unpopular opinion is labeled a troll
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/9/2016 16:21:55

Gar
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@Nex

I don't play the competitive ladder. I primarily focus on diplomacy-style matches. I know many fellow diplo players that have high boot rates; some of these players are actually very good! Removing their ability to post on the forums can only lead to less of a focus on diplomacy matches in the long run.
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/19/2016 16:29:54


Blackhawks88
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Yea, what about us diplomacy players that don't play for points? Also 10% sounds wayyy to low. If you're going to ban someone from the forums, better make it more like 20% or 30%

Edited 11/19/2016 16:30:29
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/19/2016 16:51:13


Nex
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Again, you're kidding yourself if you think any number above 10% boot rate is respectable. It's just not.


Why would you join a game you don't intend to finish?
Another solution to the troll epidimic: 11/19/2016 16:57:19


[FEL] The Prince of Felidia
Level 55
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I have 11.2
A few weeks ago it was about 7.5
Then I got an afterschool detention for something I didn't do, meaning that I had to miss playig warlight that night. I then had 3hrs to do many games as well as a lot of homework.
Because of that, it is much higher
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