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What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:11:34

[WOLF]Andrew
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Trump won based on xenophobia. How can we dare be proud of being a "nation of immigrants" when we vote for a man who attacks Muslims, who attacks Mexicans, for president. Since when does hate Trump love? Trump is irrefutably racist. He is irrefutably sexist. He says about women he would like to "grab them by the p****" He says Mexicans are rapists. Muslims are dangerous and cannot be allowed into the country. Why did he appeal to so many people? He appealed mainly to working class uneducated white men (rednecks). He appealed to them because they're afraid of people who aren't white, don't speak English. They refuse to accept people who don't look like them. So what does Trump do? He says those people are the enemy. He affirms what these people have been hearing all their lives-from parents, grandparents, local politicians- and puts it in a package that offers them their country back. Offers them their country back from the enemy (non-whites). The fact that he won is a personal insult to every minority from white men. "This is our country. We're racist and you'll have to live with it." I'm half Hispanic. I can tell you I feel personally insulted by America. They said,"We don't like non-whites" in a nation touted as a beacon of liberty. If this country cannot weigh lying about emails vs sexism, xenophobia, and demagoguery (hint: sexism, xenophobia, and demagoguery are worse), then it is a country I want no part of. I've enjoyed being an American-and cherishing it, for my whole life. I'm no Clinton-lover. But she is the lesser of two evils-far lesser. I cannot live in a racist country. To put it frankly, I feel abandoned.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:13:55


BUFFALO
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not all americans are immigrants, or descendants of immigrants

saying its a nation of immigrants is excluding an entire race

Edited 11/9/2016 22:14:29
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:19:24

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Trump did not win mainly due to racism, sorry.

Just see why many blacks did not vote for Clinton this time.

Edited 11/9/2016 22:20:21
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:38:43


Zephyrum 
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in a nation touted as a beacon of liberty.


No.

If this country cannot weigh lying about emails vs sexism, xenophobia, and demagoguery[/quotes]

E-mails aren't quite everything she''d be lying about...
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:45:53


Ranek
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^Tabby imagine a black racist?!
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:50:37

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^What do you mean?

The issue is more complicated than using racism to explain everything. As for sexism I doubt anyone ever votes based on that other than religious conservatives. Xenophobia? A bit though this can be cured.

Edited 11/9/2016 22:51:57
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:54:08


Жұқтыру
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How can we dare be proud of being a "nation of immigrants" when we vote for a man who attacks Muslims, who attacks Mexicans, for president.


some clearly aren't proud. Also I guess we shouldn't attack Masrhiq or tackle any Mexican drug gangs since that'd be attacking Mexicans and Muslims, which is "impermissible", as those wiser than me would say.

Trump is irrefutably racist. He is irrefutably sexist.


this is why folkdom wouldn't ever work (well) - folk would vote based on character too much. I'd vote someone who spat on my door if it meaned that it would be better policies.

The fact that he won is a personal insult to every minority from white men.


how is it that Trump upholders are getting to be more likable then Clinton ones?

I can tell you I feel personally insulted by America.


"America" personally insulted nobody. You're incoherent - continents can't insult peopple. And the government didn't, either.

I cannot live in a racist country.


so is it like a magnet where you're just being pushed away from the ground and your house until you land in Mexico or the sea?
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:54:54


Zephyrum 
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A reminder of things we have elected in brazil:


  • A circus clown
  • A guy so corrupt he's hunted by the FBI
  • A rhino
  • A Disney villain
  • A monkey
  • A guy whose motto is "I have a purple nut sack"


We're still alive, so... Don't worry about Trump.

Edited 11/9/2016 23:04:06
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 22:59:16

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Details?
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:00:21


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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He appealed mainly to working class uneducated white men (rednecks). He appealed to them because they're afraid of people who aren't white, don't speak English.

and you say Donald Trump is racist?
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:01:53


Ranek
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Trump did not win mainly due to racism, sorry.
Just see why many blacks did not vote for Clinton this time.


^Tabby imagine a black racist?!

^What do you mean?

The issue is more complicated than using racism to explain everything. As for sexism I doubt anyone ever votes based on that other than religious conservatives. Xenophobia? A bit though this can be cured.


The issue was racism. dont know why you all of a sudden changed the subject ...

Edited 11/9/2016 23:03:15
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:02:57

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Not all who voted for Trump did it for racism. America is individualist enough to vote for Trump for other reasons.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:05:01


Zephyrum 
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^Details?


Google these, respectively:

Francisco "Tiririca" Silva
Paulo Maluf
Cacareco
Dilma Rousseff
Macaco Tião
Fernando Collor de Melo
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:08:46


Ranek
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Not all who voted for Trump did it for racism. America is individualist enough to vote for Trump for other reasons.


Definitely true. So why would anyone vote trump, except for his personal achievements and awesome personality? which political statement or parts of his agenda appeal for his election?
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:12:10


OxTheAutist 
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,,clinton" is the LEGIT candidate..if you,did not vote for ,,clinton" then your....ILLEGIT!!!!!1
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:14:06


Ranek
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,,clinton" is the LEGIT candidate..if you,did not vote for ,,clinton" then your....ILLEGIT!!!!!1


Is this supposed to be an answer to my question? =D
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:15:24


{Canidae} Kretoma
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I am disappointed, i still do not see a civil war...
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:15:35

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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@Ranek There are much more reasonable reasons. For example people who believe Trump can bring back the jobs, people who believe that Trump can improve security, etc.

Edited 11/9/2016 23:16:05
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:19:36


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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I wanted Trump to win because I am pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-almost every damn right wing social issue. If Trump lost, Clinton would have put in justices that would certainly have furthered the country away from these stances. It could have been almost any Republican, and I would have sooner had them over Clinton; and as much as I hate to vote by party, it was needed for this election.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:19:50


OxTheAutist 
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A serious answer to your question, is that Trump won the vote for 2 main reasons:

1) Black voters not turning up to vote in the Rust Belt
2) White voters turning up to vote in the Rust Belt

The white, working class voters in the Rust Belt have been successfully convinced by Trump that they have had their jobs stolen by foreign countries, and that he can save them from America's awful trade deals.

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

We must look at 3 things for Rust Belt white male working class people.

1) Is it legitimate? - Yes, many jobs previously in Detroit are now in Shanghai.
2) Are there harms? - Duh, job loss leads to the decline of industry and economy, of course.
3) Is Trump the solution? - Not at all. He can talk about cutting as many taxes as possible, or lowering all the regulations that he wants, but there is

*NOTHING*

that he can do, that will get *privately owned businesses* (i.e. state doesn't own them) from Chinese sweat shops, and bring them back to *The Rust Belt*. Cleveland, Detroit, etc. aren't going to recover because they have the minimum wage. What is the solution to that?

1) abolish the minimum wage (something that Trump has flirted with). This is crazy, btw.
2) create new jobs instead of crying about the old ones

The old manufacturing industry is dying. America needs new jobs there, instead of crying about China having poorer rights than USA, which leads to companies realising how profitable the PRC sweat shops are.

This was very scatter-brained, but Trump has convinced too many people that he can bring jobs back when he can't.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:20:31

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^I doubt Trump will support any real religious conservative policy though.

^Blacks refusing to vote for Dems are doing a favor to themselves. This also shows they are waking up to Dem's nonsense. If Dems really loved blacks why are Dem-ruled inner cities so poor?

Edited 11/9/2016 23:22:46
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:22:29


OxTheAutist 
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and even though I think Trump personally is an inexperienced, racist, misogynistic, etc. blah blah blah, candidate, I also disagree with his typical Republican stances. He may reverse all the good Obama has done for America in the past 8 years.

America needs to wake up and become more like the rest of the western world. Stop feeding your own nationalistic "We are not the rest of the world; we are America" rhetoric. It's incredibly harmful.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:24:24


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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^ ^ 1. That is still more support then Clinton would have given

2. The Executive branch is the weakest anyway... I mainly care about Congress and the Court, and the court needed a republican in office to nominate judges who will uphold the constitution to the fullest.

Edited 11/9/2016 23:24:38
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:27:01


DanWL
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IMO, the world is trying to **** its self over when it comes to voting.
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:30:52


Zephyrum 
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You know, Ox...

Brazil did it in the past. Germany did it in the past. China did it in the past. Egypt did it in the past. And heck, arguably even the US did it in the past.

But you know what really brings up new jobs?

A crazy ass large scale state project.

Something like a wall...
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:40:05


Ranek
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@Ranek There are much more reasonable reasons. For example people who believe Trump can bring back the jobs, people who believe that Trump can improve security, etc.


Tabby, that's a joke, right? Due to FBI statistics violent crimes in the USA decreased from 2006 to 2016 about 16.5% and during Obama's time unemployment decreased from 11% to 5% and more than 13 million new jobs have been added.

Why should Trump solve problems that are almost nonexistent?

Edited 11/9/2016 23:48:22
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/9/2016 23:46:24


Ranek
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But you know what really brings up new jobs?

A crazy ass large scale state project.

Something like a wall...


and do you know what is even better? two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...

Edited 11/9/2016 23:47:40
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/10/2016 00:27:26


Zephyrum 
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Hey, our "crazy ass large scale project" was literally burning coffee. Anything goes as long as it creates the god damn jobs.

FYI: It DID work, we jumped off the 1929 crash barely scathed. And we didn't need a bloody dictator (ours wasn't a dictator yet at the point :P)
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/10/2016 00:28:05

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^^My friend, please look at our inner cities. Please explain to me why we do not dare to visit Detroit or get out in Baltimore at night.

MA is pretty good. However Baltimore is a disaster.

Edited 11/10/2016 00:28:37
What the (fill in word) did America Just do?: 11/10/2016 00:32:52


Жұқтыру
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two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...


it successfully shielded Ostdeutschland from the fascists
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