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1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 07:49:01

Adolf Hitler
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ok i have 0 clue on the military power of the following countries in 1443 and i dont know where to even look so i am asking the warlight community if anyone has knowledge on the military power of the following countries.

A: Portugal (Allied to C)
B: France & Vassals (Allied to O, at war with C)
C: England (Allied to A, at war with B and R)
D: Burgundy
E: Denmark (Leading union with G)
F: Novgorod Republic
G: Sweden (Under a union with E)
H: Castile
I: Aragon (Leading union with AA)
J: Poland (May choose between leading a union with K or L, at war with X)
K: Hungary (Potentially under a union with J, at war with X)
L: Lithuania (Potentially under a union with J)
M: Venice
N: Genoa
O: Scotland (Allied to 😎)
P: The Papacy
Q: Irish minors
R: Provence and other french minors (At war with C)
S: Serbia and other southern slavs (At war with X)
T: Muscovy and other Rurikovich minors (Vassal of V)
U: Lëzhë League (At war with X)
V: Golden Horde (Master of T)
W: Roman Empire and it's rump states
X: Ottoman Sultanate
Y: Karamanid Emirate and other Ottoman rebel states (At war with X)
Z: Crimea
AA: Naples (Under a union with I)
AB: Austria (HRE - Emperor)
AC: Bohemia (HRE)
AD: House von Wittelsbach & the Bavarian Imperial Circle (HRE)
AE: House von Hohenzollern & the Upper Saxon Imperial Circle (HRE)
AF: Lower Saxon Imperial Circle (HRE)
AG: Swabian Imperial Circle and Swiss Confederation (HRE)
AH: Dutch states & Westphalia proper (HRE)
AI: Westphalia (HRE)
AJ: Hanseatic Cities and Hannover (HRE)
AK: Teutonic nominal control
AL: Savoy (HRE)
AM: Milan (HRE)
AN: Florence (HRE)

also i am open for suggestions on any special rules to add to basic diplomacy rules

here is the template and would also like some insight on what to do with the settings


Template : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=963945

keep in mind i purposely left out africa, middle east, and the most eastern parts of russia ( asian russia ) because i could only hold up to 40 slots ( if you can hold more let me know so i can have the map revised to fit more slots - i know a certain person who specializes in map distributions )

i am really looking for help on setting up the incomes on the countries but first i want to know the military power of each of the countries/provinces

Edited 12/11/2016 07:50:13
1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 08:00:33


FDR 
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Add aggressive expansion points as a rule, (seriously) every territory you get from war is one expansion point. When you reach 10 within five turns, people can declare war with aggressive expansion as their reasoning.
Occupying a nation's land during a war isn't gaining a territory, only lands you gain from the peace deal.

Edited 12/11/2016 08:01:56
1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 11:16:04

Pauhoihoi
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You could use the game "Europa Universalis IV" as research - it starts around the same time, and probably covers all the countries/states you're interested in.
1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 16:18:07


Жұқтыру
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Add aggressive expansion points as a rule, (seriously) every territory you get from war is one expansion point. When you reach 10 within five turns, people can declare war with aggressive expansion as their reasoning.
Occupying a nation's land during a war isn't gaining a territory, only lands you gain from the peace deal.


why are you trying to make the system as fop as EU4? peace deals are the worst bit of the game, they really suck

also blacklisted

Edited 12/11/2016 20:26:18
1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 20:25:12

Adolf Hitler
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Eu4 is set in 1444

this scenario is set in 1443 when the Ottoman empire went to war with Hungary and a multitude of Hungarian allies over Wallachia ( part of Modern day Romania ) which is a key point in history because after the Ottoman empire managed to force the Hungarian army to retreat and ended up causing the rest of europe to avoid any war with the ottomans for decades which allowed the ottomans to expand alot


also the Eu4 wiki doesnt give me the true military power of the countries either

Edited 12/11/2016 20:25:51
1443 diplomacy: 12/11/2016 20:27:24


Жұқтыру
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You could use the game "Europa Universalis IV" as research - it starts around the same time, and probably covers all the countries/states you're interested in.


it has a shit tonne of mistakes and guessing
1443 diplomacy: 12/12/2016 01:03:27

Adolf Hitler
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Hmm so does anyone have any clue about the military power of the listed countries
1443 diplomacy: 12/13/2016 06:24:54

Adolf Hitler
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1443 diplomacy: 12/13/2016 10:18:33

Hasdrubal
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Adolf Hitler

Hmm so does anyone have any clue about the military power of the listed countries


Present of past?

For current values, you should use in consideration these lists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) i.e. economic power of the country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Global_Militarization_Index i.e. % of economic power spent for military

If you want to see if this is correct, compare your results with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_military_expenditure

for 20 greatest military powers in last 30 years.

EDIT:

Now I checked your map and list of countries, so you can neglect my proposal. For best info I suggest you use any of Europa Universalis series of games, as mentioned above.

I left above links for other referers to use.

Edited 12/13/2016 10:22:15
1443 diplomacy: 12/14/2016 03:58:27

Adolf Hitler
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The problem is that they don't accurately show the true military power
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 03:36:01

Adolf Hitler
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1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:21:53


Жұқтыру
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GO BACK TO AFRICA you bone
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:22:15


Жұқтыру
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^ yeah what Chatul said !
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:22:20


Жұқтыру
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^^ yeah !
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:22:32


Жұқтыру
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It's about to go fullscale spam attack in here.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:23:20


Жұқтыру
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I've noticed you've been exacerbating the forums a lot recently, but from such a disgusting name as "Adolf Hitler", I didn't expect you had morals. Do you deny the Holocaust ?
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:23:47


Жұқтыру
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The exact meaning of the word "disgusting", it applies to this Warlight diplomacy player.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:24:53


Жұқтыру
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As for me, it seems like I might dominate in the fields of strategic template-making as well as strategic template-winning. All right, I admit it, I play very strategically.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:25:58


Жұқтыру
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I've came to the conclusion that you're a very stupid person, "Adolf Hitler". But I used a very dangerous strategy, it's called "Don't Let Stupid People Exacerbate".
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:26:52


Жұқтыру
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How does it feel to be fullscale spammed by "The Strategist" ? I strategically dominated "Adolf Hitler" by using the forum. I love the forum.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:27:40


Жұқтыру
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Don't ever underestimate me and my forumposting !! We are strategic. I handled this guy as prisoner and I destroyed him on a high level.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:28:35


Жұқтыру
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(EDIT: COMMENT DELETED)

Edited 12/25/2016 18:28:58
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:28:49


Жұқтыру
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Don't comment on this thread, "Adolf Hitler", I don't like you. It's official, I hate nazis.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:30:05


Жұқтыру
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Me and especially my forumposting literally dominated the thread way BEYOND the average level. Sometimes to win strategically, you have to use a strawman.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:30:47


Жұқтыру
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hi guys i'm adolf hitler and i am a rich twat who thinks it's funny to name himself after genocidists LOL anyhow im likyly biggest fattest ugliest fellow in all WL
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:31:00


Жұқтыру
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Don't exacerbate.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:31:32


Жұқтыру
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************DON'T UNDERESTIMATE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!************************************
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:32:16


Жұқтыру
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You're exasperating and that's exacerbating the forums. I'm not trying to excruciate you but I'm just saying the truth. I'm the person that *ROASTED* Adolf Hitler.
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:33:02


Жұқтыру
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Trolls are not welcome. I want to get coherent reactions. I have mastered the strategy of winning !!!!!!!!!!
1443 diplomacy: 12/25/2016 18:34:12


Жұқтыру
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I'm not a spammer you filthy nazi. If I'm something then it's dexterous. Case closed, typed by a strategic *ROASTER*.
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