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Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 09:58:17


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Seriously, just because you dislike Trump doesn't mean he is a bad person. Ever since he won (and before) you have been flooding OT with posts dissing him. Would me or most Trump supporters have done that to Clinton, if she had won? No. Just get over the fact that he won, keep an open mind, he may do well. If he doesn't, kick him out in four years.
Oh, political alignment and intelligence have absolutely no correlation.


And if you're going by GeneralPE and those idiots as an example of all Trump supporters, they're just... Not the norm.

Edited 12/14/2016 09:59:11
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 10:43:53


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Thank you for making a thread for this instead of writing it on one of wallys threads. Downvoted
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 13:43:50


BUFFALO
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Thank you for writing your username wrong. Downvoted.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 13:56:46


Norman 
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Thank you for declaring the German language as per definition erroneous due to not being English.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 13:59:34


Major General Smedley Butler
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Upvoted.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 14:54:02


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Would me or most Trump supporters have done that to Clinton, if she had won?

Wally Balls is a single person. Would there have been at least one Trump supporter doing that if Clinton had won?

My guess, based on their posting behaviour before the election: very likely yes and probably more than one even.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 15:47:04


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Thank you for declaring the German language as per definition erroneous due to not being English.


All lower case, so still wrong.

Edited 12/14/2016 15:47:18
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 17:09:50


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just because you dislike Trump doesn't mean he is a bad person

Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 17:17:11


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Thank you for showing off with your bought WL membership. Downvoted.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 23:10:37


Wally Balls 
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My opinions are facts


Do you think your opinions are wrong? This is a ridiculous thing to try and attack somebody with. Of course I think my opinions are correct.

Seriously, just because you dislike Trump doesn't mean he is a bad person.


Whether or not he is a 'bad person' is irrelevant and I've never commented on that either way, so this is a strawman.

Ever since he won (and before) you have been flooding OT with posts dissing him.


That's true but it's mostly a function of this being such a low trafficked forum. It's not my fault a handful of posts over several months constitutes 'flooding' around here. On a healthy forum, people wouldn't even notice.

Would me or most Trump supporters have done that to Clinton, if she had won?


Whether 'you or most' would doesn't matter, some would. And I'm the some that would do it if Trump won.

keep an open mind, he may do well.


I do have an open mind, and I want him to do well. That doesn't mean I'm going to be subservient to him, his ideas or his supporters. It's my right and my duty to be critical and skeptical.

political alignment and intelligence have absolutely no correlation.


Another strawman. I never said 'political alignment' I said Trump support. And that is absolutely negatively correlated with intelligence.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/14/2016 23:27:00


Жұқтыру
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This is a ridiculous thing to try and attack somebody with. Of course I think my opinions are correct.


thought for sure you would say "nice strawman kike" but wow you think what's good for you must be good for everyone and what you think must be the answer.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 00:10:12


Wally Balls 
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nice strawman.

do you believe what you just said is true? if so:

Жұқтыру: "My opinions are facts"
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 03:12:34


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Do you think your opinions are wrong? This is a ridiculous thing to try and attack somebody with. Of course I think my opinions are correct.

Well, having righteous attitude about your beliefs is kind of what FDR is talking about...
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 04:36:56


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do you believe what you just said is true? if so:

Жұқтыру: "My opinions are facts"


belief =/= fact

I believe you have cognitive dissonance. =/= You have cognitive dissonance.

Edited 12/15/2016 04:38:11
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 04:46:13


Wally Balls 
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so you're saying what you've just said is not a fact?

why would you say something that you know is not true? you're a liar.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 04:56:14


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Trump is president. If we could all just grow up and accept it, that'd be nice.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 05:01:21


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why would you say something that you know is not true? you're a liar.


knowledge =/= belief

(in my thought) The cognitive dissonance is getting pretty high.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 06:06:28


Wally Balls 
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Those are not facts. I don't care. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.

Edited 12/15/2016 06:07:06
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 07:02:39


Wally Balls 
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Trump is president. If we could all just grow up and accept it, that'd be nice.


I'm not sure who this strawman is directed at but I have not seen one person deny that Donald Trump is President-Elect or say anything indicating they have not accepted that fact.

I believe what you mean is that you want people to stop criticizing him. Many people have criticized President Obama for eight years, and President Bush for eight years before that. Had Hillary Clinton won, she would have been criticized for her entire term(s). Please explain why President-Elect Trump should not be criticized. Should we pass Lèse-majesté laws and make it illegal to criticize him?

Edited 12/15/2016 07:13:17
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 10:19:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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Uh did you not see "#notmypresident"?
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 15:37:06


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There's a line between criticism and whining.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 19:03:28


Жұқтыру
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Those are not facts. I don't care. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.


and your opinions are not facts neither so you should stop posting memes that whine about Trump. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 20:46:28


Wally Balls 
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those are not facts, let me know when you have some knowledge to share.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 20:48:44


Wally Balls 
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There's a line between criticism and whining.


in this context, no, there is not. only whether or not you agree with or approve of the criticism. let me know when a law is passed that says you must agree with and approve of my criticism of Donald Trump -- until then, I will continue exercising my freedom of speech.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 22:59:04


Жұқтыру
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let me know when you have some knowledge to share
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 23:00:29


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Fair Criticism of Trump:

This guy, he's a loose cannon and I worry that he can lead to problems down the line. I also don't like how his business can conflict with his interests as president.

Unfair Criticism of Trump:

He lost a billion dollars in a year, and hasn't released his tax-returns, so I don't think he is going to be a good president.

Whining:

Wtf America! How did we elect this crazy dude, are you guys afraid of Hillary or something? We had a perfect opportunity to make history and just because it was a woman means we get Trump!?
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 23:32:56


Wally Balls 
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those are all criticism of Trump, some of it you evidently agree with so you characterize it as 'fair' and some of it you don't like so you characterize it as 'unfair' or 'whining' -- those labels are meaningless. you don't get to decide what criticisms people can and cannot have.
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 23:38:00


Wally Balls 
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Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.


i don't see anything in there about these three classes of criticism you claim there are, two of which people are not allowed to share. seems like all opinions and ideas are treated the same.

Edited 12/15/2016 23:39:53
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/15/2016 23:40:33


Major General Smedley Butler
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those are all criticism of Trump, some of it you evidently agree with so you characterize it as 'fair' and some of it you don't like so you characterize it as 'unfair' or 'whining' -- those labels are meaningless. you don't get to decide what criticisms people can and cannot have.

First criticism: An actual argument as to why he wouldn't be a good president
Second criticism: Arguing that because of an unrelated to thing to governing, trump will be a bad president
Third criticism: Not an argument
Not found: Benjamin saying that you can't say the two latter
Wally Balls: "My opinions are facts": 12/16/2016 00:22:50


Wally Balls 
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Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.


I just read that again, still don't see anything in there about different classes of opinions and ideas, or whether other people have to agree with them, like them, or approve of them.
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