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The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 1/13/2014 18:59:01


{rp} GeneralGror
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Updates are fun!
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 1/19/2014 14:56:25

Hennns
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Bump :)
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 1/23/2014 00:24:47


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Any updates on this?
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 1/23/2014 02:33:21


Wenyun 
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Just a more defined version of what's been going on, I guess?



101st > Master > REGL > Warlighter > Dragon > BR

There's probably some score inflation due to BR's losses - if you take the matches against them out, you get...

Not Official Scores
101st: +23 (34-11)
Master: +15 (31-16)
REGL: -8 (17-25)
Warlighter: -15 (12-27)
Dragon: -15 (15-30)
BR: N/A

It's unfortunate that BR was thrown into this kind of environment - pretty much the same as last season. Personally, although this may just be me, I would have preferred that group B be dissolved and then mixed with the new clans in three different groups :/

(No time for a full-on update, but check the spreadsheet if you're curious.)

Edited 1/23/2014 02:48:30
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 1/23/2014 22:29:39

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yeah it's a shame with BR, not fun for anyone. otherwise it looks like it will be some close battles :)

nice small update :)

Edited 1/23/2014 22:29:47
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/8/2014 04:43:47


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The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/8/2014 16:01:06


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Another update, fully this time...

1v1 #1: This tournament's long past over. The scores...
1st - JSA (101st, 5-0)
2nd - TWM (Master, 4-1)
3rd - General Arun (Warlighter, 3-2)
4th - Sarutobi (REGL, 2-3)
5th - Jefferson (Dragon, 1-4)
6th - Empire of Brazil (BR, 0-5)

1v1 #2: Another tournament that's over! Scores are as follows...
1st - Hennns (REGL, 5-0)
2nd (Tie) - Unreality (101st, 3-2)
2nd (Tie) - Miyagi (Master, 3-2)
2nd (Tie) - PHD Dragon (Dragon, 3-2)
5th - Firestorm (Warlighter, 1-4)
6th - Sr.Jack (BR, 0-5)
(For the tie, Miyagi beat Unreality, Unreality beat PHD Dragon, PHD Dragon beat Miyagi)

1v1 #3: It's not over yet, with 2 more games left to go! The winner's still not decided, either. If Ekstone wins his last two games, he wins head-to-head against Grizzlis and takes first. Otherwise, Grizzlis' 4-1 record will secure him the win.

If nich wins against Ekstone, then his 3-2 score will beat the others head-to-head, and he'll be second place.

1v1 #4: This tournament has completed, also, with some pretty close scores, which follow...
1st - Master L (Master, 4-1)
2nd - GreenTea (101st, 4-1)
3rd - Thor2323 (Warlighter, 3-2)
4th - stam4o (REGL, 3-2)
5th - Legacy (Dragon, 1-4)
6th - eddieh4rry (BR, 0-5)
(Master L beat GreenTea, Thor2323 beat stam4o)

2v2 #1: The tournament isn't over yet, but, in a surprise victory, the Dragon team has secured first in this tournament, going 4-1. Still, with 2 remaining games (101st vs. BR, Warlighter vs. Master), there's still points left to be earned here.

2v2 #2: Another tournament that isn't over yet, and there's one last game to decide who first is! If the Masters win their game against the 101st, they go 5-0 and obtain undefeated status. However; if they lose, then they will also lose their win to the 101st by the head-to-head matchup. Meanwhile, REGL and BR are battling for 3 points, as well as the rights to be 4th in the tournament.

3v3 #3: This tournament's far from being over - 6 games left. With 3v3 games being worth 4 points, winning or losing here could still shake up the rankings.

Current Overall Standings:
1st - 101st (62-14)
2nd - Master (51-21)
3rd - Warlighter (41-34)
4th - REGL (33-40)
5th - Dragon (31-51)
6th - BR (12-70)


Oh and we're about 90% done!

Edited 2/8/2014 16:32:19
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/8/2014 16:39:30


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thx for putting me higher than miyagi ;)
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/8/2014 16:40:29


Master Miyagi • apex 
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actually in the tournament im listed as 2nd, nbd or anything
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/8/2014 16:46:40


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Riyamitie did list you as 2nd too here :)

Edited 2/8/2014 16:46:50
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/17/2014 00:16:47


Wenyun 
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I'll update if a tournament finishes but BUMP right now

... and a tournament DID finish! 2v2 #1 has the Dragons taking the victory!

1st: Dragon - Jefferspin / Legacy (4-1)
2nd: 101st - Dom365 / Unreality (4-1)
3rd: Master - TheWarlightMaster / Master Miyagi (2-3)
4th: Warlighter - Polakillo / General Arun (2-3)
5th: REGL - Min34 / Steve (2-3)
6th: BR - Aviatorman / jotace.rei (1-4)
(Dragon beat 101st, Master beat Warlighter and REGL, Warlighter beat REGL)

Edited 2/17/2014 00:21:55
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 02:25:21


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... and Ekstone loses to SexMachineRJ, costing him the win to the tournament!

1v1 #3, ending the 1v1 tournaments!

1st: Grizzlis (101st, 4-1)
2nd: Master (Master, 3-2)
3rd: Ekstone (Warlighter, 3-2)
4th: nich (REGL, 2-3)
5th: SexMachineRJ (BR, 2-3)
6th: ^^Dragooooooon^^ (Dragon, 1-4)
(Master beat Ekstone, nich beat SexMachineRJ)

~ 1v1 Results ~ (Total: 40 points)
1st: 101st (16-4) -> 32 points

2nd: Master (14-6) -> 28 points
3rd: REGL (12-8) -> 24 points
4th: Warlighter (10-10) -> 20 points
5th: Dragon (6-14) -> 12 points
6th: BR (2-18) -> 4 points

... on the other hand, nothing has finished in 2v2 #2 or 3v3 Europe...
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 17:14:18


Wenyun 
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Unfortunately for suspense, Clan League's Group B is pretty much set in rank, with a few exceptions...

101st: 65 pts. (11 left)
Master: 54 pts. (15 left)
Warlighters: 43 pts. (8 left)
REGL: 33 pts. (15 left)
Dragon: 31 pts. (8 left)
BR: 14 pts. (5 left)

Games Left
2v2 #2: 101st vs. Master, REGL vs. BR
3v3 EU: REGL vs. 101st, REGL vs. Warlighters, REGL vs. Dragon, Master vs. 101st, Master vs. Warlighters, Master vs. Dragons

- Master can still beat 101st at this point, if 101st loses all of their remaining games. If 101st wins vs. REGL, but loses both games against Master, 101st and Master will tie for 1st. Otherwise, 101st gains first.

- There is no way for Warlighters to catch up to Master.

- If REGL wins all of its games, they will beat Warlighters regardless of whether Warlighters wins vs. Masters. If REGL loses to any team other than Warlighters, then Warlighters will have to win vs. Masters to keep 3rd place. If REGL loses 2 games or the game against Warlighters, then Warlighters stays 3rd.

- The Dragons can beat REGL - but with REGL battling 4 different clans, it's mostly out of their hands. If REGL wins any two games, or wins the game against Dragon, then Dragon cannot take 4th.

- BR has no way to beat the Dragon clan.

Either way the results look like this (IIRC 2 teams relegate and 2 promote)

101st: 65 pts. (11 left) -> Promoted to Group A
Master: 54 pts. (15 left) -> Promoted to Group A
Warlighters: 43 pts. (8 left) -> Stays in Group B

REGL: 33 pts. (15 left) -> ???
Dragon: 31 pts. (8 left) -> ???

BR: 14 pts. (5 left) -> Relegates to Group C
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 17:20:36


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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why do you count points differently to the other groups?
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 17:28:10


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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ok. you count correctly - only form the last post it was not clear..

RANKING POTENTIAL:

                   |       points        |     place     |
Place  Clan        | current  max   min  |  best  worst  |
    1  101st       | +51      62     40  |  1st    2nd   |
    2  Master      | +33      48     18  |  1st    2nd   |
    3  Warlighters |  +4      12     -4  |  3rd    4th   |
    4  REGL        |  -9      +6    -24  |  3rd    5th   |
    5  Dragon      | -20     -12    -28  |  4th    5th   |
    6  BR          | -59     -54    -64  |      6th      |
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 17:32:22


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so not much to see left I guess. Only thing to determine is who gets relegated from REGL and Dragon
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 17:42:58


Wenyun 
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why do you count points differently to the other groups?
The +/- form and the raw score form have their advantages and disadvantages - With the raw score, the minimum score a clan can receive is the score they have right now - as opposed to the +/- form, where the minimum score is "Current - Remaining".

Basically I'm lazy and hate subtraction :P
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 18:02:23


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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Riyamitie - but the two systems can give different results. as it does matter not only who is the winner, but also who is the loser of each game..
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 18:20:18


Wenyun 
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When all games are settled, you can switch interchangeably between the two. The raw score sets "0" at 0-90, whilst the +/- score sets "0" at 45-45.

To get from Raw Score (R) to +/- Score (S). using the Maximum Amount (M)...

R*2 - M = S
(S+M)/2 = R

The only difference is that the +/- Score makes differences seem twice as big... and it also makes these fringe cases harder to consider because each win raises the minimum by 2x the amount of points it should give. :3

Edited 2/18/2014 18:26:57
The Fourth Clan League: Group B Thread: 2/18/2014 18:29:42


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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hmm you might be right on that..
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