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False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 16:18:56

[FEL]Chatul
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The best way to start an existential war of extermination is to let the intended target be the aggressor or at least be perceived as such.

Hence compromise, cooperation and sometimes concession are good while not compromising when one does not have enough strength leads to defeat, elimination or even extermination.

Remember cats. Cats do not fight against coyotes in suicidal attacks. Instead cats avoid coyotes.

Edited 1/1/2017 16:22:41
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 16:32:20

[FEL]Chatul
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There are many groups that get devastated for this reason, such as certain Native American tribes and Tasmanian natives who murdered white civilians despite having a smaller population and inferior weapons, Poland in 1939 and Yugoslavia in 1941.

If Poland did agree to German demands without fighting one thing would have been clear, namely less Poles would have died during the war. Poland might have been larger as well.

Edited 1/1/2017 16:34:18
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 17:28:49


OnlyThePie
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I dont think you understand enough about Poland and its central European neighbors. If Poland had given in, they would've gone the way of Czechoslovakia. A rump Polish state might have been formed as a puppet government like Slovakia, but the Germans probably would've taken all their pre-WW1 land back first.
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 17:41:59

[FEL]Chatul
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Yes, go the way of Czechs or Romanians. Then..less dead Poles.
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 19:04:42


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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@OnlyThePie Despite everything if Poles collaborated with Germans I can guarantee that not many of them would have ended up in concentration camps.

In the worst case the Czech model would be followed. That means there would have been a nominal Polish government "protected" by Germans. The Czech death rate during WWII was much lower than the Polish one. Collaboration means national survival.

Then it was also possible to follow the Romanian model. NSDAP claimed to be completely racialist. However it was also pragmatic. You can be an independent Slav nation such as Bulgaria without Germany massacring your people. You can also be like Croatia or Slovakia and survive. Even Serbia was better than Poland. At least there was a Serbian collaborationist leader who could negotiate with Axis Powers and support Chetniks in secret.

Edited 1/1/2017 19:06:48
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 19:13:01


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I don't consider collaboators such as Marshal Petain bad people. When there are no collaborators the people who lose their independence (Yes you won't even get a semi-autonomous puppet state if you do not have collaborators) face worse treatment than the treatment they would have received if there were collaborators.

Collaborators preserved the French, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians, Ukrainians etc from what was done to Poles.

We can also imagine what would have happened to Poles if NSDAP were in power until 1960. Will there be any Poles in NSDAP-occupied territories alive? What about Czechs? Slovaks? Romanians?

Edited 1/1/2017 19:33:18
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 20:06:33


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^ For once i agree with you Tabby, if i was in place instead of Adolf Hitler and the Poles did not resist i would not exterminate them with force but instead assimilate them slowly and make them proper citizens. I differ from Hitler since i don't see slavs as inferior.
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 20:07:10


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Judes still had to die though.

Edited 1/1/2017 20:07:24
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 20:29:16


Жұқтыру
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i'm not racist but I don't like slavs; they're ruining WL.
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 20:34:51


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^The Jewish policy of NSDAP was completely mistaken. Even in the worst case you can try to do what Iran does right now. Iran hates Israel but still allow Iranian Jews to exist. Jewish interest is really just ordinary ethnic interest and should be managed as such.

Don't try to dominate the world if you can not. Sometimes sharing power among several dominant groups is better than all of them fighting for the top spot to death especially when all these groups possess weapons of extermination.

I seriously doubt that Jews want anything beyond the following:
1. A Jewish state (Israel) (its size is negotiable but Israel needs to exist and yes Jews will go out of their way to ensure that Israel exists because Israel is where they will have to escape to if nativists run amok)
2. Legal practice of Judaism
3. Protection of Jewish businesses (freedom from ethnicity-based and religion-based discrimination in business aka freedom from affirmative actions)
4. Continued existence of the Jewish people (some degree of isolation for more religious Jews)
5. Protection of the Jewish diaspora (freedom from pogroms etc)

A lot of supposed Jewish actions to "undermine the West" are really motivated by the Jewish desire to guarantee 2, 3 and 5. For example Jews of course never want Christianity (and to some extant Islam) to be dominant since they are universal religions that want to convert the Jews even by force. Hence they have to promote secularism to ensure the continued legal existence of Judaism. This is probably one of the most important things to any religious Jew. Jews don't really care about what Gentiles do at all especially in terms of religion as long as Gentiles don't bother the Jews. However whenever Gentiles begin to mess with the Jewish religion there is trouble.

Similarly Europeans can propose their own interests that should not be violated by any other group, such as:
1. A homeland for Europeans consisting of Europe (and maybe Australia, New Zealand, Canada, US, Argentina, Chile, etc or some parts of them)
2. Protection and equal treatment of Europeans and people of European descent outside homelands defined in 1. (Freedom from affirmative actions)
3. Protection of ethnic European business outside European homelands. (Such as white farms in Zimbabwe)
4. Continued existence of European peoples (this is also for the shared heritage of humanity. We want the high IQ Nordics and their unique genes to exist)

Other groups with nukes and other weapons of extermination should also propose their own basic interests that can not be violated, such as East Asians and South Asians.

Interests of groups that do not possess weapons of extermination are less important because conflicts involving them won't end up with humanity largely exterminated.

Edited 1/1/2017 21:24:05
False flags in exterminationism: 1/1/2017 23:23:04


Von Jewburg
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I honestly wish Tabby moved to Israel so he can be blown to bits by a Hamas rocket
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 00:17:27


haripota
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extreme dexterous semi-hardcore unexpected, in your ass sneaky attack
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 00:48:36


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^I'm unfortunately not Jewish though it would have been better if I were.

If I were Jewish I would support Meir Kahane and Modern Orthodox Judaism at the same time.

Edited 1/2/2017 00:49:14
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 00:51:56


Жұқтыру
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at the same time? woah
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 00:53:42


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Yep Kahane's ultra-hardcore Zionism at any cost and MO religiously. My personality does not suit the Haredim well.

Edited 1/2/2017 01:31:19
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 01:02:36


Жұқтыру
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MOJ* don't get it mixed up with MOC.
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 02:38:49


haripota
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Tabby you transformed from normie to alt-right/non-normie

We could talk about it during caffee
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 02:43:17


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I'm a realist HBDer.:3

Edited 1/2/2017 02:43:34
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 02:48:15


haripota
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But you did transform? I remember you would be the kind of guy who would rant "that's racist" or correct me if im wrong
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 02:50:06


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Have you noticed the fact that I never side with all of the alt-right?

I tend to support the moderate Jared Taylor-John Derbyshire-HBD faction.

Racism in the sense of racial persecutions is still wrong. Recognizing racial differences and try to work with them is not.

Edited 1/2/2017 03:26:04
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 02:53:21


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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For example if there is any transhumanist technology to increase IQ I will suggest that all Americans with IQ lower than 100 get their IQ improved to at least 100.

Even when we don't have such technology we need to make a conscious attempt to improve the black American IQ as well as their culture.

You can be a race realist without hating people due to race. For example the average black American does have lower IQ than the average white American. However their underperformance can not be explained by IQ: Iran has an average IQ similar to black Americans. However Iranians are far more scholarly than black Americans. If IQ determines everything then we should expect Tehran to be similar to Detroit. However this is nonsense. Another example is Nigerians who do not share the same attitude and culture black Americans have which contribute to their success.

Edited 1/2/2017 02:59:24
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 03:03:08


haripota
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Race realist, far better than SJW and also probably than race alt right nationalist
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 03:07:41


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Thanks.:3

We acknowledge the variance in humanity to make everyone's lives better.

What people do need to do now in America is to have some no-nonsense attitude towards black Americans. Genetics tells us that they can be at least as successful as Iran so we must require them to achieve that (i.e. fix Detroit). If we openly acknowledge that the average black American has relatively low IQ we should ask black American kids to work harder than their white and Asian counterparts because it is a reasonable thing to do.

I have taught at least one black student and have tutored more. Their main issue do not seem to be exceptionally low IQ compared to others. Instead a completely dysfunctional culture is a more serious culprit. I have also met Nigerians, none of which have the attitude of your typical black American. They are not afraid of STEM, are less promiscuous and do not blame everything on racism. Hence they succeed in America and usually own houses. In fact even in Nigeria they do have several Tokyo-style neighborhoods for the superrich. They behave more like Indians and less like black Americans in some sense.

Edited 1/2/2017 03:18:59
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 05:21:11


TOTSEan
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''Their main issue do not seem''

does not seem*

''Nigerians''

Niggerians*

''Nigeria''

Niggerland*
False flags in exterminationism: 1/2/2017 05:24:50


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Much better than the American ones.
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