Based on the responses so far, we can agree that this was short notice. So let's go ahead with CL9 as planned(without the rules stated yesterday).

• Any player present in a clan's roster must also be a member of that clan on the date of the submission deadline.
  
• If a player with accounts in 2 clans is enlisted by both clans, they will be removed from both clans' rosters. The player can clarify with the CL panel who they wish to play for.

However, we would like to start to this discussion surrounding alts/main and who should participate for a clan and hopefully have it in place before next season. To that effect, we'll invite everyone who has had something constructive to say, to a discussion.

Based on the responses so far, we can agree that this was short notice. So let's go ahead with CL9 as planned(without the rules stated yesterday).

I really appreciate, that the panel did recognize the posts here and had the courage to change this.

However, we would like to start to this discussion surrounding alts/main and who should participate for a clan and hopefully have it in place before next season. To that effect, we'll invite everyone who has had something constructive to say, to a discussion.

Personally I would not differ between alts and mains. There are way to many reason to not play with your main for example:
having main in a clan that does not participate in CL
beeing in your early day clan with your main and having your rl-friends over there, but want to play in CL for a more competetive clan
...

Good that I read this today, when decisions were redone.

I remember when Clan leaders voted for Templates and its Order they agreed to the rules to that Date.

So, You have made the right decision to redo it.
So the Deadline ist again 21st January?
The Main is the Account who played in CL8?

If so, please also Change the information at the Spreadsheet again.

PS: I would like to participate in the discussion to Mains/alts

AND if you really really really really have to Change rules like this, PLEASE do not only in a thread. Write PMs to both Clan leaders or write it in a Chat games in its entirety

If you write 'the Deadline for roster Lineup Submission is 1/21/2017'
And below that 'please See [Link to this thread]' like you did in the vote game
Then I only think that the information you have stated before can also be seen in this thread.
That was really close that I even read it. Wasnt really active in Threads the Last time.

But I am happy that the rules were changed to the previous.

Edited 1/14/2017 16:40:13

Question
If we have a low level member who wants to play, but are not high enough level, can they use another player's alt to play? (Oh, also taking about mains, the higher level alt would win on points etc. So we could claim it was a main' ey? Also, the alt would be member of the clan too, ofc.)

Also, what if the alt in question was another player's main?

Simplest is ofc to just say: No, you can't use an alt. But given that you can't really control alt use anyway, and levels =/= skills, well? Why not allow it?

PS, It is so nice to not have to answer hard questions :)

Edited 1/15/2017 06:13:16

Question
If we have a low level member who wants to play, but are not high enough level, can they use another player's alt to play?

Yes please! I totally approve of this question!
In our clan, we are currently massively levelling up two members to be able to join while I have a high level alt with a membership laying around that fulfills all the level requirements!

If we have a low level member who wants to play, but are not high enough level, can they use another player's alt to play?

You cannot use another player's alt to play.

However, we would like to start to this discussion surrounding alts/main and who should participate for a clan and hopefully have it in place before next season. To that effect, we'll invite everyone who has had something constructive to say, to a discussion.

I'll give my 2cts then.

So this rule along with the roster rule, means that clans are defined as 25 players that existed in a clan at the time the league started and can slowly atrophy over time with no new additions. I don't feel like that aligns with the definition of a true clan. I strongly feel this rule should be removed. It creates headaches for everyone.

But you re free to register 25 players to prevent a clan from being short of players any time, isnt that enough ? The beauty of this rules (and the no alt rules) makes the definition of a clan stronger, spot on for a "Clan" league, and benefits to "stronger" clans not only in skills but in "loyalty factor" which can now also be represented : the ones who manage to keep their members. Moreover, if a member quits the clan in a bad mood, he cant ruin the clan's results by playing bad purposely, as he has to be replaced.

having main in a clan that does not participate in CL
beeing in your early day clan with your main and having your rl-friends over there, but want to play in CL for a more competetive clan

It depends how we see and want to see clans and CL. For me its like a country at olympic games, which like CL have values like honour our flag, be loyal to it and represent it to the best you can. And members of not seeded countries can not partipate. Members who have fiends in another country can not play for that country. Solution for them would be to naturalise before Olympics start.

Edited 1/16/2017 14:21:06

I have the opinion that if statistician low leveled players did not manage to make it on time, we should allow an alt to be used by one of them. It would be a pity to lose a solid clan due to lack of level

Why not just create a kongregate account and reach the required level within a day?

Is the deadline for submitting a lineup still on January 21 or was it pushed back to January 28? I remember MotD wrote about this in his post before editing it out.

Thanks!

28th Jan is fine so as to avoid confusion.

do any clans want to practice some games (any of the templates, but I am looking specifically right now at Deadmans Rome) against FCC? PM me.

Just another reminder that the deadline for roster submission is 1/28/2017 00:00:00 UTC. Any clan which hasn't sent their roster will not be able to participate. If your clan leaders are away/inactive for any reason, make sure you have someone acting as backup.

Edited 1/26/2017 16:59:42

@deadman, you should add timezone I guess

I am pretty sure its UTC, but correct me if I am wrong.

Added UTC

This is the final reminder that lineups are due in 5 hours(1/28/2017 00:00:00 UTC).

Clans still pending:

• Group QF
  • REGL
    
  • LEA
    
  • TLW
    
  • World League

Everyone has had almost 3 weeks. If your clan hasn't submitted a line-up, we will start without you. Chase down your leaders and get them to submit a line-up.

Edited 1/28/2017 06:12:12

Group A: 5/7 missing.

And I thought I was late!

I'm so hyped

The spreadsheet looks awesome