Forcing Master and ONE to submit a day earlier doesn't really solve anything, since we could just change our lineups later after we'd seen all the other lineups but before releasing that information to the public if we wanted to, and nobody outside our clans would ever know.

And for the record, ONE actually had it's lineup finalized almost 2 weeks ago, long before any other A clans had submitted them. I just never got around to formally entering it.

you could - but it's notably harder; your fellow clan organizers could tell that you've changed it - so you would all have to be in on it; and now you have to do outright deceit.

people are desperate on finding something to scapegoat.

I expect some cunning tactical surprises.

Am i the only one confused at why MotD said the deadline was in 5hrs at 11:54? Wouldn't it be 12 hours and 6 mins after you post that msg?

This might be a time zone thing, but I don't check the WL forums often, if ever, so i don't know if I'm missing something here, but i hope i got my clan submitted in time. Cuz i thought the deadline was in a few more hours

Edited 1/28/2017 01:51:58

^ what?

Am i the only one confused at why MotD said the deadline was in 5hrs at 11:54? When the time of 1/28, 0:0:00 is a little more than 12hrs from that time...

I will use a countdown timer next time. 5 hours from that post was 1/28 00:00:00 UTC which was the deadline.

hmm weird, it is 1/27 6:52pm for me, so i thought i still had over 5hrs to submit. Sorry for the mixup

No problem. ViralGoat submitted your line-up in time.

When do the line-ups go public?
Wanna make some predicts

We will be streaming to select the Qualifier groups, go over some CL related stuf and revealing the lineups on Sunday. The stream will begin at 11AM PST

I expect some cunning tactical surprises.

Lol

EDIT - Who was that?

Edited 1/28/2017 02:04:40

MotD :

Paul Ince :D

haha.. If I had to guess, I would have totally guessed it was the Guv'nor!

did someone say tactical? :)

no tacky tickle!

Are Outlaws, ONE and French in or out?
Names are still neutral in the Spreadsheet.

Then you build a roster to counter it based on this logic. You focus on the templates that none of the majority of other clans focus on.

The main problem for such a planning is the communication effort:
You need to analyse the line-ups of all other clans and evaluate them. Then you need to come up with a plan and discuss with those who are involved.
Finally, you need to make sure nothing of your plan gets out. Once one player of your clan leaves, you would get problems doing so.

I think the risk is to high.

But lets be honest: For this exact reason noone did mail their template votes earlier as neccessary.

I think having some kind of platform which enables you to mail your line-up and reveal it exactly at the countdown, would help getting the mails in sooner.

Edited 1/28/2017 09:56:11

Are Outlaws, ONE and French in or out?
Names are still neutral in the Spreadsheet.

Can't speak for the other two clans, but we submitted ours on time.

They are all in. All the Clans who dropped out aren't included anymore in the spreadsheet.

Talking about the other thing. I trust MotD and Beren and don't think they would abuse their knowledge on the other lineups. Another point in my opinion is, that i don't believe any of the Division A Clans would wait until the last second to discuss a lineup. These talks are done weeks before the deadline, because u need to know which player is available for the lineup/roster and u need to talk about their best templates. So basically u're putting your lineup together weeks before the deadline.