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Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 06:57:30


Castle Bravo
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Democracy has been fallible to intelligent minds for over 200 years. It is no longer an effective ideal for any truly gifted individual or insightful tradition. In every instance it has developed into tyranny in the majority and finally, oligarchy and the rule of money.

Democracy has been articulated by the state to bring mass-surveillance, "hate speech" laws, and state-worship. Party politics has removed any element of honor, heroism, or class from the political process. Policy is a confusing mess of coalitions, interest groups, and opaque money. Its leaders operate through lies to the public at large; for true insight, true intelligence belongs to a small minority that is outmaneuvered by demagoguery at every turn. Democracy has failed to protect liberty by carelessly violating the livelihoods of any group that finds itself an obstacle to the majority.

Democracy is an enemy of culture. Culture is articulated by a small minority; no more than a marginal fraction of the population can be great statesmen acting in the spirit of culture. The majority can be propagandized and offered material benefit by democratic leaders at the expense of their culture's political strength. Once again the few with true insight, the genius and tradition cannot stop the will of an ignorant public practicing democracy.

American Democracy in the form of Republicanism which was designed to negate the state's potential to attack personal rights evolved into factionalism and then utter plutocracy; parties were embattled to steer the entire nation towards one ideal or another, and then they were consolidated to represent the same generic ideals that would bring the machine the greatest material benefit, leading to a victory no matter who won the election. The ignorant mass's simple obsession with charismatic leaders creates representatives who enforce their mundane insecurities and selfish interests with despotic force.

Thus democracy has enticed the people but denied the nation.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 07:07:23


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I personally believe that not all individuals belong to ancestry-based cultures. Maybe most do. However a small minority of humans such as me do not fit into any ancestry-based culture. Maybe we need some form of refuge for these individuals?

I mean you can have your empires/whatever while we get to keep a place such as a piece of Antarctica as the center of global individualism.

There are too many people with strong ancestry-based allegiance. Hence I need a place to escape from such people.

Like:

Country Name: Felinia/The Felinist State/Free State of Felinia
Ancestry-based allegiance: None
Requirements for immigration: A large amount of money, knowledge, good genetics or a combination of two or three among them with the condition that laws and individualism get respected. No affirmative action / ancestry-based quota allowed.

Felinia is to be a real civilization without cultures. In fact it is basically against any collectivist culture that tries to establish itself in Felinia. No attempt by anyone to force another individual to absolutely obey oneself is legal. In Felinia civilization rules. Nobody cares about what you do as long as you do not harm people. Nobody will try to force you to conform as long as you are not some nuisance.

Oh and there is a motto here: Felinia = the sum of Felinians. There are no collective interests other than the sum of individual interest. Yes I know many nations promote that form of patriotism that promotes death over collaborationism which does not help their nations at all if they truly fail. Yes I know you want the collective to be something individuals have to sacrifice for without clearly benefiting any individuals. We don't buy that. We don't need martyrs for the dead can no longer contribute anything anymore. We don't need those who die for Felinia for only those who live keep Felinia alive. Be like a cat, avoid your enemies while they are strong and live. Defeat them when they are weak.

Edited 1/9/2017 07:27:06
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 07:29:17


[FEL] The Prince of Felidia
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Felinia. Is. Not. Real!
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 12:14:53


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Constitutional Monarchy or National Socialist ruled state is way better than any Democracy.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 13:19:53


Castle Bravo
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^ Absolute Monarchy is the best state-form, I will elaborate on this in a future post.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/9/2017 15:03:30


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^If it is not hereditary it might work. By the way real absolute monarchies are/were usually fairly bloody and arbitrary unless there are some limit to power, worse than non-monarchy forms of dictatorship. Basically serving an absolute monarch is a dangerous thing. However rule by a small group of elites that come from the common people is better.

What about rule by robots? Can politics be separated from human emotions forever?

By the way, special interests are only dangerous if they are hereditary. The interests of any individual is usually limited while the interests of an ancestry-based group (ABG) can never be satisfied. ABGs also like to sacrifice the interests of individuals to prolong their existence. In true individualism ABGs are restricted.

Edited 1/9/2017 15:18:31
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 13:53:27


GeneralPE
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Hereditary monarchy is fine. Regents do exist, you know, as do advisors and delegation. The heir will be taught from birth in statecraft, offsetting the fact he may not be incredibly smart or talented. Most importantly, hereditary rule ensures the monarch is seen as the Father of the nation.


BTW democracy can work in small-scale, white, homogenous Protestant nations (Iceland, Switzerland) but always fails in Catholic/Orthodox or "diverse" cultures. Latin America is diverse and Catholic, democracy there is a disaster. Catholic Spain, Portugal, and Italy have been destroyed by democracy. Orthodox Eastern Europe is also doing poorly. Democracy is also entirely foreign to non-whites.

Success in Protestant nations is because it inevitably leads to socialism; the two are inseperable. And socialism works in small, tight-knit, all-white, Protestant societies. It has never worked outside of these. Catholicism needs monarchy because of the patriarchal and hierachal nature of the Church, which does not encourage individuality as much as duty.

Atheists are irrelevant and should not exist.

All my arguments are found in Liberty or Equality and I suggest that if you want to learn more about these ideas, whether you agree or not, you buy a copy.

Edited 1/12/2017 14:51:24
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 15:38:18


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I don't like hereditary monarchy for obvious reasons.

I might read the book you recommended though since I'm open to new ideas.

Why shouldn't atheists exist? There are a lot of them in the West and even more in East Asia.

Nations can adapt to democracy. Poland is a good example, so is Japan.

Edited 1/12/2017 15:43:08
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 16:25:17


The Cruelest
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"Absolute Monarchy is the best state-form, I will elaborate on this in a future post."

One word, Hapsburgs.

EDIT: I can't wait to see someone defend/justify the Hapsburgs. It will be glorious.

Edited 1/12/2017 16:27:09
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 16:53:29


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Habsburgs were actually not bad.

Look at the Ottoman Sultans.

Edited 1/12/2017 16:53:49
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 17:25:19


BUFFALO
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http://i.imgur.com/pODace2.jpg

All you Nazis and sheep want to be slaves! If you give too much power to the government, that government will use its power to award itself more authority. Then you have a snowball effect in which government evolves into an Orwellian dystopia like North Korea, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and more!

Edited 1/12/2017 17:25:45
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/12/2017 17:30:47


BUFFALO
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How can you want someone to control your entire life and do whatever they want to you, including torture and oppression? Don't you want the liberty to make your own decisions? Don't you want to be able to pursue happiness? Or do you need a violent baby-sitter state to watch you at all times and regulate your activities and thoughts?
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 02:16:12


Remove Kebab
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Regulation is necessary to prevent degeneracy and bad cultural ideals. And it keeps the state first and provides a good life for its people through self sufficiency. Totalitarianism is good.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 02:48:26


GeneralPE
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I can't wait to see someone defend/justify the Hapsburgs. It will be glorious.

What was bad about them?
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 03:36:02


BUFFALO
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Having no privacy, liberty, constantly fearing for your life, and being conscripted for the state's never-ending war ambitions is a "good life for its people". How much are the Reptillians paying you, Kebab?

Edited 1/13/2017 03:36:31
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 03:55:10


Marigold Sunshine 
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fascism is a blissful political system. everyone needs to try it at least once. it's fun, i promise.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 04:02:32


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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@Remove Kebab Totalitarianism and traditional monarchies are not the same.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 04:28:36


Castle Bravo
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EDIT: I can't wait to see someone defend/justify the Hapsburgs. It will be glorious.


How about the USSR and The PRC? These states are/were democratic in nature. Even the Third Reich was democratic in nature. Uniformity and tyranny in the masses.

There is no perfect state form you filthy rationalist; you can find poor examples of almost anything, certainly political ideals throughout history. The greatest state-form is the one that serves the cultural Idea.

Edited 1/13/2017 04:28:55
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 04:33:17


Жұқтыру
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How about the USSR and The PRC? These states are/were democratic in nature. Even the Third Reich was democratic in nature.


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Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 04:37:57


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^Do you believe that a small minority of civilized but not cultured people should be able to have a place of refuge from cultural uniformity?

In the Middle Ages Venice was a good example of a relatively free place.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/13/2017 04:40:58


Жұқтыру
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tabby, you uphold Israel and think Hebrews are the next superhumans, so all your shitposts are discarded automatically by an userscript made by MoTD for the far-right.

Edited 1/13/2017 04:41:22
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/20/2017 02:35:39


GeneralPE
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Monarchs are much less concerned about power because their role is guaranteed, democrats must struggle every election or appointment season to maintain their position.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/20/2017 02:36:54


Benjamin628 
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good genetics

Isn't that the definition of racism?
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/20/2017 06:08:29


Castle Bravo
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No that's eugenics. Racism is the affirmation of RACE, distinct zoological groups of humans. Race is determined genetically but eugenics is not limited to racism and vice versa.
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/20/2017 06:15:43


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Eugenics is a good idea, however transhumanism is better.

These can finally turn the tide against caninism forever. I promote rule partly by a techno-elite and members of the techno-elite becoming de facto a part of the neo-nobility.

@PE Please don't be dogmatic. Fighting over who should be the monarch of a country happened all the time in Europe and everywhere else where monarchies existed.

Furthermore monarchs are unlikely to start real far-right or ultrareligious policies such as executing all gays. Just look at history. You need an ideological state to impose ideologies. A typical monarch won't do that. If you actually have a monarch who does not execute all gays you can no longer do anything about it because you can't replace the monarch.

Edited 1/20/2017 06:22:56
Democracy has been dead for over 200 years: 1/20/2017 06:24:22


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Traditionalism and extreme (such as NSDAP-style) policies usually don't go together.

Reason:

A typical human isn't an idealist, let alone an exterminationist.

Hereditary monarchism in essence allows typical humans to rule. Hence you can never exterminate any group unless it rebels against the monarchy.

To cleanse a population of anything based on any characteristic you need disciplined people who will carry out total destructions, instill absolute horror and exterminate targeted populations at any cost. That's why all genocidal paramilitary groups are ideological. Extermination is so unnatural that you need some brainwashing to get it started.

A good way to check how unpopular exterminationism is to visit far-right websites. How many people there actually pursue a policy of "Kill them all!!" I can tell you..very few. That does not mean that genocides aren't a concern since beliefs usually become more radical under certain circumstances. If humans were that bloody and sadomasochist there would have been almost no slavery of captives since extermination itself would have been very common. The "exterminate all but an in-group without any provocations" scenario is basically so alien to human nature that I'm one of the few humans who have even thought about it.

Edited 1/20/2017 06:38:11
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