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What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 09:45:22


Min34 
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The map is looking very very well. I`m looking forward playing it!!
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 10:13:52


Moros 
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Fixed. Min, you'll get a thank you note too!
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 12:30:31


Moros 
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Okay, with the next update I've hit the file size limit :(
I'll start with simplifying the rivers, and if really necessary I may have to delete the Frysian lakes. That because I didn't add any other lakes, so it would be inconsistent to have them in the first place. The ports and coastlines I want to keep as long as possible.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 13:14:47

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Can you estimate how big the file would get if you complete it, without making any "sacrifices"? I mean, the file size limit is "artificial"; there's no technical reason for it (like there is for the two-billion-and-change max number of reinforcements for instance). So, you *could* ask Fizzer if he'd consider slightly upping it...? I don't have the faintest clue how much chance of success that would have, but as long as you ask politely, you don't have anything to lose, right?
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 15:06:11


Min34 
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It`s a shame :(
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 15:16:27


myhandisonfire 
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I had to dump a map because of the same restrictions. It hurts
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 18:12:12


Moros 
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Maybe there should be a complicated and simple maps division, and you get a warning when opening a complicated map.
And I could also simply get rid of the rivers and the whole harbour system, since I've already got the airports.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 18:27:35


Domenico
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I think it would be more realistic to ditch the airports than the harbours, because boats move through no man's land and planes often intrude a nation and would therefore be targeted.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/21/2012 18:43:25

RvW 
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Of course you already know this, but just for the one-in-a-million chance: don't forget to make a backup before you start taking stuff out. A few-MB file sitting on your hard disk doesn't hurt, and you never know what you might want to use it for a couple years from now; don't delete a work of art!

I agree with Domenico, partly because he has a good point, but also because you're only connecting harbours along the same rivers, right? That will already make it easier to move armies; having airports which connect everywhere might make it too easy. (Besides, you need the ports to get to the Antilles. ;) And, especially the Netherlands, is a country of water, not aeroplanes.)
What to do with Benelux.: 4/23/2012 08:15:07

Flesius9517
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Amsterdam - Muiden connection missing
What to do with Benelux.: 4/23/2012 08:36:35

Sewerrat
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I agree with RvW; just create your map the way you like and safe it. You can simplify and upload your map afterwards.

I also agree with choosing harbours over airports.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 11:11:32


[VL] Tristaneke
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and what are you doing now Moros? with the map
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 12:26:14


Moros 
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tristaneke, I don't ask you to read all the 252 posts of this tread...
But the page you currently have open gives you all the info you asked for.
In other words:

AAAAAAAAARGH!
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 15:25:54


[VL] Tristaneke
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huh xD ok
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 16:58:03


Domenico
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Also, note that the territories have to be big enough. I've had to enlarge my Slovenia Map - which is now public! - because the army number didn't fit into the territories.
With the amount of territories you're using, resetting all the centerpoints will be a pain.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 18:03:17


Moros 
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1. The map can't be enlarged any more. It's at the maximum size already.
2. I don't believe in putting circles over territories to make them fit the army numbers. As long as the numbers don't overlap with other numbers, it's playable.
3. I don't know if I should continue with this map or not. Right now I'm only destroying what I built up in months, and losing whatever value the map might have over the existing Netherlands map, except the few extra territories. I mean, wouldn't it suck to recreate the existing Europe map, but with a few extra territories of Africa added?
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 18:48:56


Domenico
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Well, seeing you said Belgium has more territories than the Netherlands, that comparison doesn't work. Plus this map is so super-detailed, that I doubt just a little chiselling would hurt it so much. And seeing you have a means of transport through water, there is also extra gameplay value.
So cheer up, save the map as it is now - perhaps you'll be able to use this version one day - take out the intricate Frisian lakes and see if it makes any difference. Also, you could think about taking away the background, which is aesthetically useful but otherwise not.
Of course, I'm not sure if that would actually make a difference, but discontinuing this awesome project would be such a shame...
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 19:48:22


Moros 
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A different option would be to create a Netherlands map only, but then with airports/harbours and HD territories. And then later make a different one with Belgium and Luxembourg, but with lower detail.
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 20:04:33


[VL] Tristaneke
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Nee je moet verder gaan waar je aan begonnen bent ik wacht al maanden op deze kaart en ik wil heel heel graag dat het af is zodat ik kan spelen : )
What to do with Benelux.: 4/25/2012 20:16:33

Sewerrat
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Ik ben het met tristaneke eens!

What are the problems you are running in to exactly?

It is to big right? I really like the details in the map, if you want to keep that you can maybe reduce the file size by decreasing the detail in the bonus markers?
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