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Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/24/2017 23:55:52


Emu Pub
Level 61
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I know alts are illegal on the 1v1 ladder and seasonal ladder and they okay on the 2v2 and 3v3 ladder.

What about Vanellope (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1711203334) and NZPheonix (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9510000349)

who are clearly the same person, simply from seeing how much of an ahole they are if you beat them.


seems like you could manipulate the ladder with alts.
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 00:46:12


Master Farah♦ 
Level 58
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I don't think they're forbidden. Although i think alts on the real-time ladder tend to deflate ratings over time if they are above average. And since the people using alts on the RT-ladder tend to be above average, they are probably a factor in the deflation of the ratings. How much of a factor they are is vague though; i don't think anybody has done the maths behind that.
That being said, being ranked with multiple accounts on the RT ladder is not allowed, always wait until getting unranked until you play with an alt on that ladder.
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 00:57:43


knyte 
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Afaik, the rule is just against alts that are concurrently competing/ranked on the ladder. The RT ladder is still probably vulnerable even if the alts aren't actively competing at the same time, since one of them could theoretically inflate the ratings of the other's opponents/etc.
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 01:57:36


ps 
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vanelope and phoenix has been reported before, and suspended for abuse at some point, then he stopped using both, and now apparently he's using them again. :/
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 02:06:10


Master of the Dead 
Level 63
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I think Fizzer's position on alts is :
  • Allowed on the 1v1 and RT ladders as long as they are not ranked at the same time.
  • Allowed on the 2v2 and 3v3 ladders as long as they are on the same team.
  • Not allowed on the seasonal ladder.

My personal opinion(which means nothing) is that you shouldn't use alts on any ladder as long as you have any account which has unexpired games. This is just a nice way to hack the rating system and gain an undeserved rating. It punishes anyone who has beaten the account that gave up and is harmful for the ladder in the long term. I'd go so far as to say this is as bad as stalling to attain a high rank/gold trophy.

However, the RT ladder is a bit different in the sense that a game never expires. So most people don't have a very strong stance on alts on the RT ladder as far as I know.

Edited 1/25/2017 02:06:48
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 05:11:00


ps 
Level 59
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+1 motd
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 19:37:33

player12345
Level 60
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BTW, the fact that games don't expire on the RT ladder seems like a big problem.

It's possible to accumulate points on certain templates, go inactive for years, and return with all those points even if the active templates have totally changed.
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 19:42:27


PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
Level 62
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However, the RT ladder is a bit different in the sense that a game never expires. So most people don't have a very strong stance on alts on the RT ladder as far as I know.

Yeah,that's why I believe that Fizzer should allow games to expire at Real-Time Ladder!
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/25/2017 20:49:11


[Wolf] {F} Kellen the Conquerer
Level 51
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I'm under the impresion alt-rights arent welcome anywhere
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/27/2017 01:28:07


Semicedevine 
Level 60
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The RT ladder is still probably vulnerable even if the alts aren't actively competing at the same time, since one of them could theoretically inflate the ratings of the other's opponents/etc.

To better explain this:

Person A loses to Person B on purpose multiple times over the course of a week.

Person C beats Person B over and over again.

Person A and Person C are the same person.

In theory, the rating sort of "transfers" over from the main account to a medium, and then onto the alternative account afterwards from there on out or vice versa.

But also in theory, nobody really cares so.

What.
Are alternates allowed on the real time ladder?: 1/27/2017 01:37:58


Marigold Sunshine 
Level 59
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Person A loses to Person B on purpose multiple times over the course of a week.

Person C beats Person B over and over again.

Person A and Person C are the same person.

In theory, the rating sort of "transfers" over from the main account to a medium, and then onto the alternative account afterwards from there on out or vice versa.

But also in theory, nobody really cares so.

What.


he's right. even if i do say so myself (I am one of Semice's alts)
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