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is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 18:19:59


BUFFALO
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and you cant say both or neither, pick one
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 18:21:20


Paugers 
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Feared

EDIT: Thread downvoted for a lack of content.

Edited 1/31/2017 18:21:47
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 18:27:21


Cata Cauda
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Depends on the situation.
For example if you annex a country which population will probanly always hate you no matter what you do, it's better to be feared.
If you are a democratically elected leader, you better be loved than feared.
- downvoted post by Paugers
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 18:28:44


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Loved. For mere fear does not motivate people to actively help you.
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 18:29:18


Paugers 
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^Who said you need help in this situation?
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 19:23:23


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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"Help" is in the sense of assist. You need true allies.

Edited 1/31/2017 19:23:35
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 19:33:44


[REGL] Pooh 
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I've never had some one try to "make fear" to me, so I say love.
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 19:59:56


Uru-salem
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idc which is better all I want is love.
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 21:01:45


[Wolf] {F} Kellen the Conquerer
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If you make a fatal error in cammand and lead your army to total destruction your peers and countrymen will FEAR your leadership due to incompetence, on the other hand, your errors will never earn you the loyalty of love.
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 21:02:53


[Wolf] {F} Kellen the Conquerer
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And being afraid of something promotes human emotion and that means human emotion is influenced by love.
is it better to be feared or loved: 1/31/2017 21:16:15


Marigold Sunshine 
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Feared. Why do you think i beat my wife daily? Love can only make someone go so far.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/1/2017 07:15:00


[FEL] The Prince of Felidia
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I should kill you. I should kill you. I SHOULD KILL YOU!

Edited 2/1/2017 07:15:09
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 00:23:50


Remove Kebab
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Fear. Fear is so powerful, if you tell someone to do something and threaten them or their family etc that will motivate them to do their best bc they the punishment is so great.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 00:34:07


BUFFALO
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one time, there was a political dinner party and because stalin's arrival was announced, everyone clapped non-stop for 11 minutes, even though stalin didnt actually arrive. everyone was afraid to stop clapping. the first person to sit down and stop clapping was sent to a gulag.

JFK gave a speech in front of the Berlin wall, and after he finished, people voluntarily applauded him for 20 minutes straight, including germans on the east side of the wall.

to be loved is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOP0HQUTSo0

^source
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 00:48:54


Remove Kebab
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Yes I know about stalin and the fear he instilled. But if people fear you, that fear won't go away, they'll obey you no matter what.

If people love you, you can do something wrong or immoral and people with love you less.

With fear people are forced to and will do it, compared to love where people will do something, but that love can be broken, and the love lost.

Fear is powerful.

I'm going off topic to the original thread question but whatever.
I've seen that video you cited.

Edited 2/7/2017 00:49:51
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 02:53:45


GeneralPE
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I am going to assume that this is in terms of a politician/ruler and not daily life. If so, it is best to be loved by your people, but feared by other states.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 02:58:00


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^Fear is powerful. However it has a limit.

The main reason why Stalin was unpopular is not that he purged those who disobeyed him. The main issue is that not even absolute obedience can win favor before him and save oneself from his wrath. Hence Politburo members did not even try to get the doctors to save his life when he was dying.

When you begin to purge those who try their best to please you it makes no sense to please you that much any more.

(This is the same reason why people fall away from extremely harsh religious sects. Carrots + stick = obedience. Stick without carrots (or without any reasonable possibility to obtain carrots) = people freaking out)

Edited 2/7/2017 03:02:44
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 05:44:19


Semicedevine 
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definitely love

you can do this by arresting anyone who shows a hint of cultural or racial discriminarion and then killing anyone who doesn't pay respect to the elderly

essentially force strict laws on everyone that are based on a set of good morals and eventually people will see that your heart means well and the good side in you that wants to advance humanity forward

so hopefully one day society will become filled with unicorns and rainbow swirls

Edited 2/7/2017 05:49:30
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 05:52:36


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Do you want more Saudi Arabias? Kill people for merely not respecting others. That's immoral. Are human lives worth less than respect?

Furthermore discrimination can not be stopped through incarceration which is also horrible.

Edited 2/7/2017 05:55:02
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 13:29:32


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If Stalin had some sort of rule that doctors had to be by his side constantly and must help him if he had a stroke I.e. etc then Stalin wouldn't have died.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 14:59:12


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I agree. However punishing those who are loyal without any legitimate reason makes people disloyal.

Imagine that 100 people are randomly picked and executed by a government every day. Will you be loyal to it?

Edited 2/7/2017 15:00:54
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 15:27:37


Remove Kebab
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true. For example one of the heads of the NKVD, Yezhov I believe, was extremely loyal to stalin but stalin used him as a scapegoat for the purges.

I mean so long as it's hidden it won't be a problem.

As for people close in the leadership, you would have to keep certain people there who were loyal
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 15:35:21


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Yeah. Still won't do it if I were a leader.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 15:40:53


Remove Kebab
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Me neither but I still think it could work somehow. I mean it's possible.

I agree with you though

Edited 2/7/2017 15:41:07
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 15:46:02


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I agree it could work. However when it becomes known we will face the old problem again.
is it better to be feared or loved: 2/7/2017 15:47:29


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Indeed
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