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KING = cheater: 4/29/2017 23:50:06

Hibou
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Hi,

Just wanted to tell everyone that KING, level 51 player from Brasil uses a cheating template named "para ganhar" on a Europe map (3 players FFA):

- Settings indicate neutrals are 2, but they're actually 0
- Heavy fog so you don't see the number of armies in adjacent territories
- Luck modifyer is 75% so you don't know exactly how many armies you're supposed to end up with.

=> Then he grows very fast while you expand attacking with 3 or 4 armies. When you meet him he obviously has more income and wins.

I don't know how he does for the settings to indicate "2" neutrals instead of 0.
Anyway, it's just sad that player like KING mess up a rich and fun game like this one. I recommend you blacklist him like I did.

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Hibou

Edited 4/29/2017 23:54:57
KING = cheater: 4/29/2017 23:58:37


Altruistic Person
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Give me the link of his account. Also, it's your fault for joining his game. I never get tricked by other people, because I'm always the host instead of the guest.
KING = cheater: 4/29/2017 23:59:52


Norman 
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The game is also pretty big, so, how am I supposed to know who this KING guy is, without a game link?
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:21:01


TBest 
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- Settings indicate neutrals are 2, but they're actually 0

You are probably confusing in-distribution territories, and not in-distribution.
If it is full distribution, then all not starting territories are following the first.

(This is how you have 4 armies in the pickable territories, that are not picked, in the Auto Games)
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:30:19

Hibou
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KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:32:39

Hibou
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@TBest : maybe I'm confused. What do you think of the settings ?
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:35:18

Hibou
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Also: i'm sure this was made on purpose because template's name is "para ganhar" ("to win", in portuguese).
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:42:54


Krzysztof 
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Settings are quite unusual, but there's no cheat there. Heavy fog is even highlighted by default.
as TBest already wrote - you just check the wrong settings. I expected some kinds of misleading host message or game title, but there are no such things.

Edited 4/30/2017 00:45:11
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 00:49:36

Hibou
Level 55
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Of course I knew there was heavy fog before joining, no problem.

Anyway, maybe I was uncautious joining this game, but sadly everything indicates that the guy actively seeks to trick people into his weird template to get an easy win. It may not be cheating but it's more than enough for me to blacklist this type of player.
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 01:08:06


TBest 
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Rundown:
Full distribution. In other words every territory on the map is a possible starting territory.
Therfore - Armies per neutral territory (non-distribution) DO NOT MATTER. Since EVRYTHING is in distribution.

Look at Armies per neutral territory (in-distribution) This is 0! So, the game is like it should be.

Conclusion:
You are wrong, and should apologize to the maker of that game. Calling him cheater in a public forum is not polite.
but sadly everything indicates that the guy actively seeks to trick people into his weird template to get an easy win

No. It rather shows that WL has complicated settings and they can be hard to understand.

EDIT: The image is from Unity. But the same settings is shown in flash.

Edited 4/30/2017 01:09:14
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 02:10:59


Zephyrum
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The template is unusual, but there's nothing cheesy there. You just ignored the fact people like to play in the most degenerate and weird way, but that's is the good thing about all the customisation options.

It's true, though, that "para ganhar" means "to win"; but that doesn't say much other than he's cocky. It's definetely not rigged in any way that skill wouldn't supercede luck/being the host.

Given he's the host, he likely has played the template more times than most, but that's still not a valid excuse. When you join any game, you're agreeing to it's template even if it's a custom scenario lotto.

Edited 4/30/2017 02:12:22
KING = cheater: 4/30/2017 16:29:16

Hibou
Level 55
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Hi,

Thanks everyone for your responses. Well he's not a "cheater" in the technical sense so my bad for calling him that. Nevertheless, I still think the guy made this template up to get easy victories and I find it quite pathetic.

Thanks again for your opinions on this matter!
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