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Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 02:10:54

[FEL]Chatul
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That's just a fact.

SJWs are just one of the newest groups of disgusting irrationalists, just like ISIS, anti-Jewish freaks and other crazy people. The problem with SJWs is identical to the problem with National Socialists or absolute Monarchists, namely they have predetermined axioms and can never justify them.

In a nut shell sterotypical collectivist NTs.

Edited 5/6/2017 02:12:30
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 02:15:52

[FEL]Chatul
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Fundies call what they hate "sinful" or "Satanic", National Socialists call what they hate "Jewish", "Judeo-Bolshevik" or "un-German", Communists call what they hate "counterrevolutionary", Islamists call what they hate "un-Islamic", "sinful" or "Satanic", liberals call what they hate "racist", "sexist" or "bigot".

Different freaks have different buzzwords. That does not make one set of freaks more sane than another one. All of them are illogical anyway.

Edited 5/6/2017 02:16:20
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 02:24:52

[FEL]Chatul
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Abrahamic conservatives can never justify their opposition to small groups of people practicing homosexuality, nor can they justify their beliefs which is their key weakness.

Liberals can not justify their insistence on absolute equality of human IQ among groups which is factually wrong. Recognition of human biodiversity does not necessarily leads to oppression. Instead recognition of facts help people pursue whatever goal they want, including egalitarianism.

National Socialists can not prove their claim that Jews as defined in Nuremberg Laws are inherently evil or anti-German. If the claim that Jews are an inherently evil race is incorrect and racial Jewish presence can be objectively beneficial to Germany and ethnic Germans the racial policy of the Third Reich looks counterproductive.

Communists can not justify their claim that Communism is the best political system in terms of prosperity of the average men and women. What was the original purpose of Communism? Prosperity for all. Since the ideology failed to achieve what it pursued and alternative means worked better Communism is objectively obsolete.

Absolute race purists can not properly define their race genetically for there is nothing absolutely pure to begin with and hence nothing to dogmatically preserve. All non-blacks are partly Neanderthal and blacks may also have genes from archaic humans so what does a pure race really mean? Furthermore absolute racial purism only works if a race is already objectively optimal. I doubt any race can claim that.

Race deniers can not properly justify their claim that race does not exist when it actually objectively does. Unless the genes of all humans were identical a genetic definition of race is scientific and useful.

Gender deniers can not justify their claim that genders do not objectively exist. Biologically they do hence they do. Whether genders should be equal is a normative claim, not a factual one. Whether genders exist on the other hand is a factual claim. Hence whether all humans should be equal has nothing to do with whether genders exist.

Patriarchy supporters can not justify their claim that all women must obey men. This form of absurd obedience only exists in humans among animals and makes no sense at all. They can not justify the claim that all women must not get jobs. The problem isn't whether some women or even most women should stay at home. Instead the problem is the word "all". I don't wish Emmy Noether had become a housewive. That's for sure. Women also prove themselves capable in STEM so stop.

Feudalism supporters can not justify their support of a class of hereditary nobility which isn't inherently cognitively superior or otherwise has any special merit to justify the establishment of such an inflexible caste system which is supposed to exist forever.

Absolute monarchists can not justify their claim that absolute monarchism is the best political system for the populace. Monarchs are only responsible for themselves instead of the populace. Absolute monarchies especially those without nobility, clergy or merchants to check the power of monarchs were/are frequently violent and officials were/are regularly executed for relatively minor reasons. Ironically under a real absolute monarchy those monarchists might actually get executed by a monarch whose random outbursts of anger can be deadly. What's the purpose of having a king who kills his advisors and officials, maybe including you who asked for a king?

Edited 5/6/2017 02:51:45
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 03:16:21


Carlos
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Tabby, what is your favourite colour?
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 03:26:10

[FEL]Chatul
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Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 04:32:35


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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>sjws
>irrational

topkek, they're the height of rationality.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 05:43:35

[FEL]Chatul
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^LOL they are not. They are ideological freaks.

The closest thing to a rational movement is the secular right, including some factions of the secular far right such as National Socialism.

Liberalism is just a secular perverted version of Christianity. Real rationalism demands Darwinism instead.

Edited 5/6/2017 05:56:11
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 05:59:14


Japanball
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"Liberals can not justify their insistence on absolute equality of human IQ among groups which is factually wrong. Recognition of human biodiversity does not necessarily leads to oppression. Instead recognition of facts help people pursue whatever goal they want, including egalitarianism."

Not all liberals believe all races have equal IQ. Only the uninformed do. What I believe is that what you think should happen to blacks should instead happen to all low IQ groups, since they are potentially subgroups that will consistently have low IQs. I would support you on this if it weren't for the fact that measures must be taken to send high IQ blacks to Alaska and not retarded (literally retarded, id est people with IQ below 70) people. If we do that, then we can leave them to sink and swim. If they really are a danger to society via their intelligence, they will perish in the cold.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 06:04:57

[FEL]Chatul
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^The problem is that there are basically no low IQ groups other than blacks and Australian abos. Everyone else can take care of themselves well or at least reasonably well as groups.

As for others with really low IQ they are unfortunate. Again they need to be fed well and helped. Probably no reproducton or genetic engineering of any offsprings if the problem is genetic.

Furthermore the main problem with black majority communities isn't IQ. Instead testosterone level or whatever else that caused violence to be relatively prevalent in black majority communities. Their most serious problem is violence, not poverty.

Edited 5/6/2017 06:12:09
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 06:32:33


Japanball
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Potentially culture
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 06:50:08


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>rationalism
>not an ideology

that's some next level autism tabby
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 07:28:29


The Cruelest
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Abrahamic conservatives can never justify their opposition to small groups of people practicing homosexuality, nor can they justify their beliefs which is their key weakness.


The argument goes something like this.

>The government has an interest in the production of the next generation.
>The more homosexuality is accepted by society, the more closet homosexuals will come out and not produce children. (As opposed to the 1950s when nearly all homosexuals got married and had children because of societal pressure.)
>Therefore, governments have an obligation to ban "Gay Propaganda" or "being openly gay".

Imo, banning "Gay Propaganda" or "being openly gay" is a last resort measure due to the obvious civil rights issue. Only if humanity faces extinction should such drastic measures be attempted.

NOTE: The bible only forbids "lying with mankind as with womankind". Common misconception.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 10:49:54


Von Jewburg
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heh.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 12:26:24

[FEL]Chatul
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^^The key issue here is that asexuality is evolutionarily equivalent to pure homosexuality. However nobody considers it a problem.

Why?

In places such as Japan asexuality is much more common than homosexuality.

There is also bisexuality. A person who is largely heterosexual and a bit homosexual. Why penalize occasional,homosexuality that has no evolutionary consequece?

Furthermore if pure homosexuality is a problem it is a self-correcting one if we allow it to be open. The more we allow it the less likely that homosexuals will pass on their genes and finally the percentage of homosexuals should be very low.

Edited 5/6/2017 12:31:01
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 12:33:48

[FEL]Chatul
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A health argument would have been much more reasonable since male homosexuals indeed suffer from a lot of STDs.

Here the Bible but not later Christian interpretation is right. Male homosexuality can be a health problem (no, it is not evil though). However lesbianism is biologically healthy. In fact exclusive lesbians suffer from less STD compared to straight women.

Edited 5/6/2017 12:35:48
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 12:38:10

[FEL]Chatul
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I'm an aromantic asexual.

Even if the survival of humanity depends on me reproducing I will still refuse.

Humanity made rational Aspies like me unpopular and now it wants me to perpetuate it? Nope. That's my revenge.

Edited 5/6/2017 12:41:24
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 12:47:59

[FEL]Chatul
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@Karl Rationalism is an ideology (no, not a left wing one).

Real rationalism is inevitably Social Darwinist so it should be close to National Socialism though rationalists may not care about any group they happen to be in at all.

P.S. I realized that NS is probably not just German Interest Maximization along the lines of a paperclip maximizer. NSDAP was not the German Interest Maximizer (GIM) even though it was probably one of the most effective and brutal optimizers in human history. I usually think about NS along the lines of GIM and whether NS was a successful GIM ideology (namely was their GIM successful? What tactics they used contributed to GIM while what other tactics did not?). I believe it was a failed GIM.

Edited 5/6/2017 12:54:33
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 14:26:24


Japanball
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Maybe why I have that standpoint. Also, why not use three factors for the Alaska Project: IQ, testosterone level and culture.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 14:30:36

[FEL]Chatul
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^I agree. However using these criteria only most blacks, most abos and a few sociopaths from other races will be moved.

Blacks who have proven that they can succeed in the non-black world should be welcome to be in both worlds. Liberals and Christians who care about North Alaska are also free to travel to that place.

That project should also apply to the Caribbeans as well. North Alaska should be completely autonomous with its own independent police force. No federal laws will apply to that place either and blacks there are free to make whatever laws they believe are good for themselves. For example they can decriminalize battery and assult that do not result in any injuries if they want to. They can also decriminalize usage of all drugs while keeping selling drugs illegal. They can standardize Ebonics and make it their official language complete with its own dictionaries. They can make Kwanzaa an official holiday and make Swahili another official language. They can also legalize prostitution to attract tourists.

Another similar project can be in Antarctica for Africans. Greenland can also be used.

Edited 5/6/2017 14:43:56
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 14:45:38


Japanball
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OK. I agree with that. Just as long as the blacks that are smart, do not follow dangerous culture and have low enough testosterone and forced into the project.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 14:51:05

[FEL]Chatul
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^Sure the reasonable 1% or something certainly can stay in both worlds. We should always allow exceptions and not be dogmatic.

For example first generation African immigrants objectively do not commit a lot of crime. They also tend to have higher IQ than native blacks. Hence these people are mostly fine.

Another example is blacks who manage to obtain any STEM degree. Even if they probably got in due to AA at least they managed to complete the program while their group does not necessarily approve of and support them. They should also be allowed to stay. I'm usually fine with people who made an effort towards progress even if they might not succeed.

Edited 5/6/2017 14:52:24
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 15:20:10


Carlos
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Tabby, what is your favourite breakfast?
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 15:25:04

[FEL]Chatul
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Cats rule the world.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 15:28:27


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Edited 5/6/2017 15:47:35
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 15:29:22


Japanball
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I honestly kek'd there. Most of the time one says kek they do it with a straight face, but I was genuinely LingOL
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 15:32:32


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Tabby no one cares about your autism

Also slavshit take your gay propaganda back to plebbit, homosexuality is a sin.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 16:18:25


Von Jewburg
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heh.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 17:43:58


OxTheAutist 
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NOTE: The bible only forbids "lying with mankind as with womankind". Common misconception.
Leviticus 20:13
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 17:46:12


OxTheAutist 
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+ Japanball and Tabby both seem to be the type to be beaten up by eejits and then take it out on all of them.

we'll always have people who aren't as smart as yous. maybe if you made friends with them a bit, you wouldn't hate them.
Rationalism is incompatible with SJWism: 5/6/2017 17:51:13

[FEL]Chatul
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^The problem isn't IQ. Instead the problem is the NT tendency to not think at all, which is why the packaged official opinion sets of every major group has some stupid elements.

There are some smart NTs. However they are frequently as crazy as other NTs politically speaking.

The reason is that NTs aren't into facts in general. Their communication can be more about social status and less about facts even if they ostensibly talk about facts.

I take a little bit from the left, a little bit from the right, a little bit from reactionaries, a little bit from National Socialists, a little bit from Libertarians. So do many other Aspies. There are good and bad things about each of the classes of NTs above.

Edited 5/6/2017 17:57:43
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