As I said in my last post, I genuinely think the top 5 teams can all qualify. That being said, it would be a shame if a few of them do.

Hydra is dead in B the second Ben leaves for NWO. (unless they got new recruits IDK about)
FCC is dead in B the second Pardon leaves for Master Clan. (unless they got new recruits IDK about)
IDK most in TJC, but they are allegedly an alt clan. I wonder what their roster will look like in CL10? Dead? Alive and Thriving? TBD on who is on the CL10 roster.
Stats might actually improve from this year if they get Yeon to play in CL10 more than 1 game. Alive in B if they qualify.
Even if 7th loses a player, I know there are people that haven't played in CL9 that can play well in div B.

Edited 5/23/2017 00:23:13

"@Great Expanse. Take away the name/email requirement and I'm sure you'll get more responses. 1. some people don't want to give their personal email away. 2. some people probably don't want their picks to be known by you. They would like their anonymity."

Wholeheartedly agree, I entered a illegitimate email address I assume it would still count but it did make me balk when I first saw it as a requirement.

Edit: Still nothing too major it is what it is not trying to be overall critical about it

Edited 5/22/2017 23:37:05

Well, it seems that FCC still has much to prove. I will say, I am fine with that.

And yes, pardon is moving on from FCC and playing in Masters for CL10. We are moving forward​ knowing this.

EMAIL-GATE:

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I had no option to 'setup' the email option. It just exists on that poll website. You can't disable it, so just ignore it if you want. You can make something up and it still completes. Its not like it checks if the email is valid by sending an email you need to click to 'activate' your response. This is only so I can aggregate your responses without doing it manually and write up a summary post.

So to everyone, mash that keyboard when it asks for your keyboard, let your toddler go nuts for a second, let your cat walk on the keyboard this time. Its cool whatever you want. I might even PM people to ask if I can share the obvious joke emails people have posts, some have made me laugh slightly.

Ok, taking off my scorekeeper hat here, and putting on my Hydra hat. Its very pretty btw.

Time for GE's totally not biased picks:

1) 7th Heaven: The clear favourites in this group with the depth and skill to carry them easily to 1st place and promotion. They should be higher then this already but the format doesn't allow them to move up fast enough.

2) TJC: Their lineup of alts is stacked with Xenophon, Rikku, DR Love, Onoma and others I am sure. I think their skill is more consistent and will push them above the next 2 clans. I will say that why TJC is here still mystifies me. Like, do the players that play for TJC care about the clans their supposed mains are in? Or if they don't care about TJC, why are you here when TJC isn't a serious clan? Either TJC is a serious clan and those players are ripping off all the clans they are in right now, or the aren't serious and they shouldn't be in CL. So I'd like for them to sort of their business as a clan please.

3 or 4) Hydra: This is odd because as a clan leader, I am not putting myself really high like FCC has been. This is mostly the difference in style between FCC and myself. They would rather aim high and hope for the best. I am more of a grounded person and I will say Hydra is likely to finish 3rd or 4th here, maybe leaning towards 3rd but I can easily be wrong. I don't see how we can get more points then 7th Heaven or TJC. Even I expect the race between FCC and Hydra to be really close which is why this is me hedging my bets. I mean, Hydra has good depth overall as a clan, but we aren't a clan that is defining ourselves by CL, nor do all players care about the league. I mean, this is supposed to be a fun competition not the 'Unofficial Ranking of Warlight Clans'.

3 or 4) FCC: As I already said FCC have a more upbeat attitude then me and that's their style. I think for a clan like FCC, that has an admitted thin lineup, they are giving this their all in their games, even if the player may not be the most skilled to get as many upsets as possible while relying on Pardon and Super Smoove as well as SuperGamerzChannel and Aura Guardian to carry the lineup forward. Hell, I can see FCC finishing in a ton of places in a way that I can see Hydra finish in a ton of places. I think this speak less to do with the individual clans then the intense competition here. Any finish 4th or above is a true success in my book.

5) Statisticians: I think Statisticians is a great clan and 5th seems too low but someone has to come 5th. I would put them as a clan that could challenge Hydra and FCC for 3rd and 4th but I feel will fall slightly short of those two clans.

6) Lu Fredd: Getting into Division C is success enough for them. I think they should take this a building opportunity and grow from it.

And scorekeeper hat back on!

Edited 5/23/2017 05:06:29

@Zack lol, you make me want to join 7th Heaven :D. I am already in NWO tho :P.

In all seriousness though, Hydra has some good players other than me and some promising upcoming talents also I would say. They will be fine without me, I am just a little extra for their current line-up.

FCC has some new recruits like Rubix (an old player which is very good) and I am pretty sure they are trying hard to train the guys that are interested in the strategic part of WL within their clan.

TJC really looks like an alt clan right now, even Bugs Bunny is Severus from Outlaws...I have no clue how they will be able to have a good roster if they get to B unless the current alts of that clan bring back their mains in (which isn't entirely out of question).

I would agree with you Zack that 7th Heaven are the most complete clan to go to B, they could do already good in B imo and even challenge VS, GG and MH for a spot in A right now if they would be there. The only problem of 7th Heaven right now is possibly their thin roster (not a lot of players overall in 7th Heaven).

Statisticians I think have some very good players like Yeon, Jackie, Gus squared and, of course, Math Wolf, but I feel they could also struggle a bit in B right now if they were there considering they could miss other good players to form a complete roster (unless they have guys that are great that I am unaware of).

Edited 5/23/2017 05:28:09

Does anyone have a list of the identities of all the alts?

Alright, I'm going to try to give my 100% honest opinion in each template, while trying to eliminate any bias.

Europe 3v3
Tale of three heavyweight teams and three pretty good teams, I don't think any one team goes undefeated and one of the upper 3 teams will be upset imo. Hard to predict which one, but I am pretty sure it's not 7th.

7th (4-1) 20 points
FCC (4-1) 20 points
TJC (3-2) 15 points
Stats (3-2) 15 points
Hydra (1-4) 5 points
Lufredd (0-5) 0 points

2v2 China
Loaded but not overloaded, to me there is two clear winners here, the others are good, particularly TJC, but should finish below them, imo..

7th (5-0) 20 points
Hydra (4-1) 16 points
TJC (3-2) 12 points
FCC (2-3) 8 points
Stats (1-4) 4 points
Lufredd (0-5) 5 points

2v2 Final Earth
A template I despise, but there are a few good teams that have mastered this. Probably the toughest team tourney out of the 3, I would imagine it ends up being the biggest bloodbath too.

7th (3-2) 16 points
FCC (3-2) 16 points
TJC (3-2) 16 points
Hydra (3-2) 16 points
Stats (2-3) 8 points
LuFredd (1-4) 4 points

1v1 Elitist Africa
Solid lineup of players, they are all likely to be close.

Stats (4-1) 12 points
7th (4-1) 12 points
FCC (3-2) 9 points
Hydra (2-3) 6 points
TJC (2-3) 6 points
Lufredd (1-4) 3 points

1v1 Phobia
Tough to judge, as there are some real good players here. So here's my shot in the dark.

Hydra (5-0) 15 points
FCC (3-2) 9 points
TJC (3-2) 9 points
7th (2-3) 6 points
Stats (1-4) 3 points
Lufredd (0-5) 0 points

Strat Greece
Not a bad group of players, but the FCC definitely has a heavy hitter in here, should still be close though.

FCC (5-0) 15 points
7th (4-1) 12 points
TJC (3-2) 9 points
Hydra (2-3) 6 points
Stats (1-4) 3 points
Lufredd (0-5) 0 points

So my final predictions are

7th (86 points)
FCC (77 points)
TJC (67 points)
Hydra (64 points)
Stats (45 points)
Lufredd (7 points)

Wow amazing predictions Onoma, I predict they will be just as accurate as your Q2 predictions (RIP CORP).

3v3 Europe
(5-0) 7th Heaven (Cloud Strife+Bahamut+Cait Sith) Word on the street is Bahamut has snuck alts into all other Europe teams so I expect 7th to go flawless here.

(4-1) {TJC} (Carlos+Razor+#1 Cata Cauda Fan) Dunga and GiantFrog need I say more. I’m also 95% sure Cata Cauda is on this team.

(3-2) Hydra (Great Expanse+Python's Koala+The Hysterical Koala) Great Expanse wrongly alleges that TJC isn’t a serious clan. Read the rest of these predictions and then re-read Onoma’s that ought to tell you how serious we are.

(2-3) Statisticians (Jackie Treehorn+stjinjozef2+BelSon) I wonder what the odds of Stats promoting will be after a mediocre showing on Europe?

(1-4) FCC (Super Smoove+Supergamerzchannel+Penguin Unity) Penguin Unity will be the undoing of this super team. Terrible name. Terrible Player.

(0-5) Lu Fredd (Nobody+Arigal+ssese) I expect Lu Fredd to drown out the noise of the Negative Nancies (as my pal Fizzer would say) and put in a strong showing on Europe. I believe they can make it to turn 7 in at least 3 games.

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2v2 China
(5-0) {TJC} (Innerspeaker+Bliss1) Innerspeaker, a community account controlled by Australian WL players like Nich, Pulsey and Xenophon, will be too strong for all other teams in China.

(4-1) Lu Fredd (Lucien Müller+ssese) I expect a strong performance from my favourite player in clan leauge so far. Having to read Lucien's incomprehensible English in public chat can be very off-putting which will result in DD going 4-1.

(3-2) Hydra (LeQuebecois_Benoit+GE) Benoit is a terrible team game player and in my opinion is more suited to 1v1s. Having said that I expect him to win 3 games. Well done Ben!

(2-3) 7th Heaven (Bahamut+Zack Fair) I decided to give 7th a few losses here because I’m trying to manipulate the predictions to have TJC in 1st place.

(1-4) Statisticians (JuOx+Kamakura) I’m not familiar with either of these players but I know them both to be good at 2v2 China.

(0-5) FCC (Supergamerzchannel+sloppyfatginger) It annoyed me when I saw Supergamerzchannel predicted his own clan to promote to B. I think there is no place for bias in these predictions. Here’s a prediction for you, 0-5, how do you like that?

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2v2 Final Earth
(5-0) Statisticians (Math Wolf+Yeon) Yeon is so good at WL not even Math Wolf can hold him back from sweeping this.

(4-1) Hydra (Green Turtle+Python's Koala) Why do Hydra have so many Koala’s in their clan? We all know cats rule WL. Meow!

(3-2) FCC (Aura Guardian+Super Smoove) Super Smoove is a good player, and this looks like a strong team on paper.

(2-3) 7th Heaven (Cait Sith+Jenova) A Final Fantasy themed clan, really? That’s worse than the History Clan perhaps not the Aldi Clan though who were a bit late to the party. Sad!

(1-4) {TJC} (Carlos+dry-clean-only) Originally my alt Innerspeaker was slated to play Final Earth but we had to switch it to China due to Dunga’s complete lack of ability on that template. I expect him to be incompetent here too.

(0-5) Lu Fredd (nicat+kalati) I put Lu Fredd last because Onoma hates them.

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1v1 African Elitism
(5-0) Statisticians (Jackie Treehorn) Jackie was strong in the AE Seasonal, these games should be a breeze.

(4-1) {TJC} (dry-clean-only) The alt of Window Cleaner is still a little rusty and he often drops games against noobs, so I expect he will drop a game against Jackie here.

(3-2) Hydra (Milly) I personally don’t know why Milly is playing for Hydra when they aren’t a serious clan. They aren’t even 'defining themselves by Clan League.’ What a joke! This competition should be taken very seriously.

(2-3) 7th Heaven (Alexander the Great) @Alexander the Great a full list of the TJC alts can be found here: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/253706-tjc-alts-exposed

(1-4) Lu Fredd (max) I put Lu Fredd 2nd last because Onoma hates them.

(0-5) FCC (Supergamerzchannel) I hear Supergamerzchannel has an alt in 101st, I expect 101st’s penchant for mediocrity will carry over here.

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1v1Phobia
(5-0) Hydra (LeQuebecois_Benoit) I was surprised to see Benoit in a 1v1, he is terrible at them and is more suited to playing team games, having said that I expect him to sweep here.

(4-1) FCC (Aura Guardian) Aura Guardian has a Gold Trophy? Either they give them out for free these days or he must be really good at WL.

(3-2) {TJC} (Bugs Bunny) I hear this account is complicit in the impersonation of MotD. Wait was it Oh Noes or someone with a similar name? Whoever it was I applaud them for some top notch trolling.

(2-3) 7th Heaven (Zack Fair) I predicted 7th to win 2 games here because I think they’re overrated.

(1-4) Statisticians (JuOx) Unfamiliar with this player but I expect him to do well.

(0-5) Lu Fredd (Nicat) I put Lu Fredd last because Onoma hates them.

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1v1 Strategic Greece
(5-0) {TJC} (#1 Cata Cauda Fan) Apparently TJC is behind the 3rd MotD account so I expect Cata to dexterously trick opponents into boots here.

(4-1) 7th Heaven (Alexander the Great) I put 7th Heaven in 2nd place because I think they’re a great clan.

(3-2) Hydra (Hunta) I’m not going to say anything about Hunta here as I’ve run out of things to say. Good luck Hunta.

(2-3) Statisticians (Gus squared) Gus went 2-3 in Q3 I expect a repeat performance here.

(1-4) FCC (Jyu Viole Grace) Can't be any good if Aura Guardian is playing in more games than him.

(0-5) Lu Fredd (kalati) I put Lu Fredd last because Onoma hates them.

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Final Results
1. The Juggernauts Clan, 80 points
2. Hydra, 76 points
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3. 7th Heaven, 65 points
4. Statisticians, 58 points
5. Fifth Column Confederation, 32 points
6. Lu Fredd, 19 points

Edited 5/23/2017 23:39:22

(5-0) Hydra (LeQuebecois_Benoit) I was surprised to see Benoit in a 1v1, he is terrible at them and is more suited to playing team games, having said that I expect him to sweep here.

(3-2) Hydra (LeQuebecois_Benoit+GE) Benoit is a terrible team game player and in my opinion is more suited to 1v1s. Having said that I expect him to win 3 games. Well done Ben!

lol?

So much pressure to win a lot of games now tho :(

Edited 5/23/2017 17:42:52

Aura Guardian has a Gold Trophy? Either they give them out for free these days or he must be really good at WL.

Yeah, I got mine at MotD's Discount Bargain Store. It was on sale, so I bought it. It was reasonably priced.

e. I mean, this is supposed to be a fun competition not the 'Unofficial Ranking of Warlight Clans'.

"a group of sports clubs which play each other over a period for a championship." - Definition.

I believe It's a mixture of fun and competitiveness/"Unofficial Ranking of WarLight Clans". Clans do take it serious and I see all the power to do so, We play a strategic game and not everybody likes the 1v1 , 2v2 and 3v3 ladder. Clan League is and will prove popular in the future as it's the one of few formats where all the best players play in a same competition. It's only natural that you want to also become the best and play with them.

(1-4) FCC (Super Smoove+Supergamerzchannel+Penguin Unity) Penguin Unity will be the undoing of this super team. Terrible name. Terrible Player.

Yeah, we've had to work real hard to remove the bad habits you gave him while on your ladder run. Wouldn't be surprised if TJC goes 0-5 if you're running their team.

(0-5) FCC (Supergamerzchannel+sloppyfatginger) It annoyed me when I saw Supergamerzchannel predicted his own clan to promote to B. I think there is no place for bias in these predictions. Here’s a prediction for you, 0-5, how do you like that?

Considering this is our weakest template, its not out of the realm of possibility, but considering my love for China 1v1, and my availability to some really good China 2v2 players, I doubt we'll lose every game.
As far as it feels? I never give a crap about what you think, so bring it on ;)

(3-2) FCC (Aura Guardian+Super Smoove) Super Smoove is a good player, and this looks like a strong team on paper.

Underrated team, both aura and smoove are excellent players and won't give away first place so easily.

(0-5) FCC (Supergamerzchannel) I hear Supergamerzchannel has an alt in 101st, I expect 101st’s penchant for mediocrity will carry over here

One of my better templates, I know I won't lose them all. And if you want to look at mediocrity look at your original clan right now.

(4-1) FCC (Aura Guardian) Aura Guardian has a Gold Trophy? Either they give them out for free these days or he must be really good at WL.

Really underrated player imo, he has shot up extremely fast as of late.

(1-4) FCC (Jyu Viole Grace) Can't be any good if Aura Guardian is playing in more games than him.

Yeah he's terrible please don't take him seriously at all. Pick blindfolded if you don't want it to be over by turn 2.

lol. Shots are fired! I guess Innerspeaker's predictions are to be taken with laughter for some of the sarcasms there are into it! :P For example, he says I am terrible at both 1v1 and team gaming but that I will end up 8-2 overall lol. At least if he said 2-8 I would be in an underdog position, driven to prove him wrong!!!

Edited 5/23/2017 19:57:17

(5-0) Statisticians (Math Wolf+Yeon) Yeon is so good at WL not even Math Wolf can hold him back from sweeping this.

Not sure if he's serious in his other predictions, but he nailed this one pretty much.

"[FCC] SuperGamerzChannel" Please don't bully Innerspeaker , Okay! I don't want to exacerbate the thread but you can't keep being rude to my brother.

(1-4) {TJC} (Carlos+dry-clean-only) Originally my alt Innerspeaker was slated to play Final Earth but we had to switch it to China due to Dunga’s complete lack of ability on that template. I expect him to be incompetent here too.

HAHAHAHAHA
Thanks a lot Australian Coalition!

At this rate, we will spend so much time speculating and overanalyzing that Lufredd will sneak in from behind us all and snatch 1st place and a promotion to B.

Edited 5/23/2017 20:43:47

NO way TJC wont get first with alt of Pulsey, Odin, Myhand and Latnox in the clan!

@alex: I don't have all the alts, but below is what I know. Please everyone else fill in the blanks or correct my mistakes.

7th
bahamut= belzebu (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=689056668)
Cait Sith= rambo (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=224392600)
(not the traditional alts...this is their main clan...its just a clan rule that our profiles must be FFVII themed so they made alts to join while their main accounts go unchanged)

TJC
#1 Cata Cauda Fan!/ Rorschach= Rikku (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2969075806)
Innerspeaker= Xenophon (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3262000156)
Bugs Bunny= Severus Snape (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6363637753)

FCC
Jyu Viole Grace = Pardon99 (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2271461721)
*Edit-confirmed-Penguin Unity=TribalWars (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2863984406)

As far as I know, the rest of the players set to play in C are mains.

Edited 5/24/2017 01:21:16