A republic is not the same as a democracy. Switzerland is a democracy but I can't say the same about the USA. The voters that elect warmongers are just as guilty as the perpetrators.

Also, who do you mean by freemasonry?

Switzerland is a democracy but I can't say the same about the USA. The voters that elect warmongers are just as guilty as the perpetrators.

That literally does not matter. So what if we voted for an orange, narcissistic piece of shit? We still voted for him, making us a democracy.

"The U.S needs to stop their interventionist foreign policy!"

"The U.S does nothing and needs to intervene more"

Stop being a hypocrite and pick one.

That's not what I said. Reread, please.

That literally does not matter. So what if we voted for an orange, narcissistic piece of shit? We still voted for him, making us a democracy.

If the USA was a democracy, then Hillary would have become a president, not Donald.

But the US is a democracy, so why isn't she president? Oh, that's right. Because she lost the vote.

So, your logic: it's only a democracy if they vote for who I want.

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I found 1416 - squiggles guys!

A democracy is based on the rule of the majority of people; the majority voted for Hillary in the elections, but Trump got elected as president. Why? Because of the electoral college, and that's how a republic works, not a democracy.

I found 1416 - squiggles guys!

Old news. https://www.warlight.net/Forum/263429-agony-perfectionism

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A democracy is based on the rule of the majority of people; the majority voted for Hillary in the elections, but Trump got elected as president. Why? Because of the electoral college, and that's how a republic works, not a democracy.

Yeah, the electoral college is what keeps the big cities from deciding the fate of the entire country. Does it seem fair for LA, with 5 million people, to decide the fate of all of Oklahoma, with only 4 million people?

And don't even get me started on Wyoming. If it weren't for the electoral college system, Wyomingites might as well not even vote.

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Tabby, who are the oligarchs?

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Yes, because the majoroty decides, otherwise it is not democracy?!

Yeah, the electoral college is what keeps the big cities from deciding the fate of the entire country. Does it seem fair for LA, with 5 million people, to decide the fate of all of Oklahoma, with only 4 million people?

So you agree that the USA is not a democracy.

So you agree that the USA is not a democracy.

That's not what I said, but sure. If it helps you sleep better at night.

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That's not what I said, but sure. If it helps you sleep better at night.

You don't understand the difference between a republic and a democracy.

Tabby, if you don't know who, then why do you say that it's the oligarchs? You have to point your finger at someone, right?

Democracy is a chameleonic term often, when it fits someone's argument, the US is Democratic and representatives are democratic, when it doesn't, they aren't.

Cata, I read your post clearly. You criticized the U.S for bring too aggressive and than criticized the U.S for not doing anything about Putin, claiming "All you do is talk".

Either our foreign policy is aggressive or it's weak, it can't be both. I'm asking you to pick a coherent position and stick to it, but it seems like you want to argue just for the sake of arguing.

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I think what Cata was getting at was an unrealistic "just" foreign policy.

Democracy is a chameleonic term often, when it fits someone's argument, the US is Democratic and representatives are democratic, when it doesn't, they aren't.

It's a fact that the USA is not a democracy.

http://www.nu.nl/klimaat/4743219/koenders-noemt-verwerpen-klimaatakkoord-keerpunt-in-relatie-met-vs.html

It's beginning, the relations are worsening. Koenders, minister of foreign affairs said that it's a turning point with the US.