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"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 10:24:36


Genghis 
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Some people go down the wrong road with atheism. They think their cause is righteous and correct unmistakably. The reality is that like any ideology there's simply people who disagree for their own reasons. They may not seem logical, but logic is a system developed by man, and is imperfect by such nature. I will admit I'm Christian, so i have my biases, but it is annoying to see dogma thrown from atheism when it's just replicating what many zealots have done for years : impose their beliefs on others in our free world. One might counter with laws, but we agree to those laws, they're an agreed upon belief of how our world should run.

Whether you believe in a diety or not, it shouldn't affect relationships, your social life unless you allow it to. It's a personal belief with only some debateable aspects.

It may seem illogical to believe in a god to some, but it's more than salvation to many, more than an afterlife. It's about understanding your place. It's not about being told this is what you're here, to me it has always been like a partner or guide, following along with me, being there, ever present and understanding. All this can come off as irrational, and that is fine. It's how you are as a thinking human being. Very little can change base thought processes. Argument and debate were not designed to make people agree, they were made to let other people know their stature in a dispute, to clear the air in a civil manner, but not to settle the issue.

The "correct" atheist knows he has his pot of clay to shape, just as the Muslim man. They have their lifestyles, their families, but they are very similar in their chemistry and inner workings. He knows that religion is not what defines a person, it's a part of them not their whole. He knows there are those of his own, other atheists that would only seek to bring about discord, and that he must set the example. Just as the proper religious fellow knows that his lot have their own pushy manners.

You don't have to shun other beliefs, but it is wise to take your own thoughts above others, they are only the most applicable to yourself, why belittle them? You don't have to conform, but you mustn't cause rebellion.

Like the teaching of Buddha, you must find the middle path, of self respect and respect for others.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 10:48:36


Emperor Justinian
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Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 11:12:54


Cata Cauda
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Or that the earth is round.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 11:26:03


Emperor Justinian
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^No actually nobody intelligent believes that. Study more before you sink deeper into stupidity. Love you're world nations map BTW.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 11:53:53


Cata Cauda
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^No actually nobody intelligent believes that. Study more before you sink deeper into stupidity. Love you're world nations map BTW.

*Tells me to study more*

*Can't tell difference between "Your" and "You're"*
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 12:02:56


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"nobody intelligent believes that the earth is round"

wait, what?

Sure, it may not be a perfect circle, but it is round


Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.


Ouch. Someone is defensive
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 12:18:00


Emperor Justinian
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The problem with being a minority is that you are alone against so many people you have to beat one by one.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 13:22:52


Mictlantecuhtli
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The existence of god cannot be proven or disproven. In my view if a being such as "god" really existed it wouldn't fall under the definition of a benevolent creator deity as it is portrayed through most forms of human religion. Rather it would be some form of force holding the universe together, being impartial to any defintion of evil and good. Per that definition prayer to any deity whatsoever would be exercise in futility and the only way to truly know god would be through observation of the phenomena it created. If science should indeed prove that there is some kind of force holding the universe together and being responsible for its creation than that force could indeed be considered god.

Edited 6/7/2017 13:26:59
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 13:34:50


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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Before you call yourself a Christan keep in mind you can't believe in Darwinian evolution.


why not?
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 13:46:43


Emperor Justinian
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I think it is important not to attack people for their religion as long as it is not dangerous or extremely foolish. Talking about religion is kind of hard since everyone tries to make their religion seem like something it isn't. Islam is violent, 7 days is not used as a metaphor, and accepting all religions is idiotic.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 13:49:09


Emperor Justinian
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^^Because the Bible is literal and that would mean sin came before Adam and Eve ate the fruit.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 13:58:03


Жұқтыру
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Because the Bible is literal


who says?

7 days is not used as a metaphor


and let me guess, the Earth is 5000 years old? I pity you.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 14:04:09


Emperor Justinian
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^Why would God write a book with confusing riddles that we have to figure out by comparing them to what life is like now.Just because you were taught in school to believe something doesn't mean you have to.

Edited 6/7/2017 14:07:14
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 14:29:09


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"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 14:50:20


apollong3
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Why would God write a book with confusing riddles that we have to figure out by comparing them to what life is like now


Uuum, because he didn't write it? I don't care what you say, I have faith in my statement! Don't challenge it!!!11!


Just because you were taught in school to believe something doesn't mean you have to


Just because you were taught by your parents/local priest to believe something doesn't mean you have to
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 14:58:26


Castle Bravo
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Atheism is rationalism and relies upon just as many assumptions as other religions. The scientific explanation of phenomenon is objective to some extent (gases expand when heated, gravity is a thing, mommy's tummy and daddy's cummy makes a babby, etc.) However, when science denies that culture has any transcendent properties and denies the metaphysical, and what's worse: when science reduces men to cogs in the machine and replaces culture with material, it abandons its (acceptable) utility in solving basic problems and takes on a corrupting effect.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 15:04:48


Emperor Justinian
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Guess what guys something totally unexpected happened! This debate is a tie so far.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 15:08:06


Emperor Justinian
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^^Apollong3 if You believe God didn't write it then you are not a Christan and should not be answering for Christans who believe in Darwinian evolution.

Edited 6/7/2017 15:08:36
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 15:34:24


MGTOW is freedom
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Jesus loves you all :D
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 15:51:49


apollong3
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@Emperor Justinian

I was not answering in behalf of any christians, lol


@Kastle Bravo

Indeed, deep down, scientific knowledge relies on faith, like religion. Anyone can believe any way or the other and no one can tell them they are objectively wrong.

when science denies that culture has any transcendent properties and denies the metaphysical, and what's worse: when science reduces men to cogs in the machine and replaces culture with material


Not all people who don't believe in any god veiw the world in this way.I may not believe in any god. That doesn't mean I believe every cognitive function can be perfectly attributed to functions in my brain. It doesn't mean I'm a determinist.

In fact, when I'm faced with determinism or physicalism, something inside me rejects the notion that I'm a machine. I fear the possibility of everything being a series of actions and reactions; I fear the idea of existence being pointless/purposeless. Such gaps are often filled in by religion, for people want to believe there is order in the world, that there is something beyond death. They want someone to give them a purpose.

And the best thing is: No one can prove the world is chaotic. No one can prove death is the end. No one can prove existence is pointless.

I am fascinated by physics and finding out how the world works. I want to study it and understand it. That does not mean I reject art, literature or philosophy. For I am not a positivist, and I do not hold scientific knowledge as the absolute and only true knowledge.

Edited 6/7/2017 16:42:58
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 15:53:22


KARRRRRRRR UL
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"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 16:10:01


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Justinian You realise evolution has been scientifically proven and that some of the Bible stuff is absolute bullshit?
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 16:36:32


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Pure autism dripping from this forum...
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 16:38:48


OxTheAutist 
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I think it is important not to attack people for their religion as long as it is not dangerous or extremely foolish.

Islam is violent

Would you class Islam as a religion that is "dangerous or extremely foolish"? Assuming the answer is yes, based on the fact that violence is quite dangerous, was that you openly endorsing attacking Muslims for their religion?

That's crossing the line of criticising Islam and Islamic texts, and attacking Muslims for their religion.

why would you endorse attacking people? that seems fairly savage- more savage than most qur'an entries, quite truthfully.

Apologies if I misinterpreted what you said, but it definitely seemed like you were endorsing attacking people because they happened to have a different imaginary friend than you do.


on topic, no. science does not require as much faith as religion. i'm so glad people who say this are in a minority in most western countries now. christians can't stop atheism, and soon enough muslims won't be able to stop it either.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 19:44:11

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If God was/is real, why did he/she/it create diseases? That's cruel, isn't it?
You should watch these videos if you want to hear a debate about God: https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo and https://youtu.be/_Te862VIUBo.
Personally, I don't believe in God, but I don't disrespect people that do, because that's their own view. Imo, God is a coverup for the unknown, hence the phrase "God knows".
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 20:19:23


Dutch Desire
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"If God was/is real, why did he/she/it create diseases? That's cruel, isn't it?"

1. Without diseases, the world would be havely overpopulated, and would cause many more wars and suffering.
2. Without suffering there would be no happiness.
3. It's a punishment for Adam and Eva eating the forbidden fruit.

But I'm an atheist so I don't really believe the third reason.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 20:24:51


Beren • apex 
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So ITT we have a Christian telling atheists the correct way not to believe in God. Good.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 20:38:23

DanWL 
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Without diseases, the world would be havely overpopulated, and would cause many more wars and suffering.

*heavily
If no one believed in religion, then wars (and terrorism) wouldn't even start and technology would be much more advanced. Why would God care how populated the world is? Why would God like people to suffer?
Without suffering there would be no happiness.

You can experience happiness without suffering. For example, people can tell jokes and you'd laugh at the funny ones. Also, people watch videos that they find amusing and don't not getting injured from watching the videos.
It's a punishment for Adam and Eva eating the forbidden fruit.

It doesn't make any sense to punish people who didn't eat the forbidden fruit. If someone decided to punish you for doing something you didn't do, you'd think the same thing: 'why are you punishing me?'.

You didn't answer if it is cruel to create diseases. The answer is, without any doubt is yes.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 20:53:33


Genghis 
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Well yes. It's terrible to see people trying to bash or get into conflict over something deeply personal and subjective like religion. If an atheist wanted to maintain their social circles and just general happiness, they'd know to put their respect for others and self respect on near equal pedestals, and wouldn't try to crack open a religious man analytically as though they have more layers than flesh and bone.
"Correct" Atheism: 6/7/2017 21:03:00


Dutch Desire
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"If no one believed in religion, then wars (and terrorism) wouldn't even start and technology would be much more advanced."

Without religion there would still be war. Most wars have political reasons and religion is often just a tool to make people want to fight there wars.


"You can experience happiness without suffering. For example, people can tell jokes and you'd laugh at the funny ones. Also, people watch videos that they find amusing and don't not getting injured from watching the videos."

of course there would still be happiness but instead of a "mood" it would just be taken for granted. The only way to recognize happiness is through at least a little suffering. Suffering brings perspective. Also, with no suffering in the world, there would be no reason to care for each other. Indirectly suffering is what makes us "human".
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