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Big map of Europe: 1/13/2012 23:13:10


Matma Rex 
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You know what, a minimap is a damn cool idea.

Now, coming back to the bonus links:

  • Bonus links always appear over everything (including territories). I don't know what rules apply to positioning of one bonus link over another.
  • If you really really wanted, you could probably draw the regular outline, pick the place where you want a number, draw a square centered on that place, and then create some tiny dots at its corners and merge them with the regular outline (essentially creating a multipart polygon; Ctrl + + or Ctrl + K in Inkscape). These dot will be visible, but only a little. In fact, you could probably make the square huge and place the dots outside of regular map area?
  • I also wonder if it's possible to create multiple bonus links referring to the same bonus - clicking any of them would highlight it.

Well, I guess we'll have to test these (unless Fizzer appears and gives us answers). I don't have time now, but definitely will tomorrow.

Big map of Europe: 1/13/2012 23:27:04


Moros 
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@Matma Rex

Sorry, your third idea isn't going to work, you can't make two objects in InkScape with identical ID's. :,(

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 00:03:38


i-like-swords
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Perhaps you can split Kosovo and Metohija away from Southern Serbia as a different bonus since it is de facto independent and even if still recognized as part of Serbia, it would still be considered an autonomous province like Vojvodina.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 11:52:36


Matma Rex 
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Here's a test. http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8627

In short - won't work, Warlight doesn't support multipart bonus links - the clickable area of bonus 6 is much larger than the actual object, obstructing territries and other bonus links.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 12:02:31


Matma Rex 
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And here's another. http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer.aspx?PreviewMap=8628

It's the same, but with bonus 6 killed and one more test - two bonus links pointing to the same territory. Turns out it is possible, but can't be done in Inkscape (or probably any other editor), since the SVG is technically invalid - no two ids are allowed to have the same value (I forgot about this yesterday, thanks Moros). I simply modified the .svg in Notepad.

It "breaks" when you open it in Inkscape - it changes one of the ids to avoid the clash, but if you really felt like it, it's doable.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 12:54:40

RvW 
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Matma, good idea to just try and see what happens.

Unfortunately, after seeing your test break, I checked something on Europe Big and... the national bonuses are messed up there as well :(
Currently, nothing happens when you click a bonus (they're not linked with territories yet), but just hover over Belarus and read the tooltip that pops up: "Russia". And no, it's not simply labelled incorrectly, you can hover over different parts of Finland and see either "Finland" or "Russia", depending on the exact location. :(

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 13:08:49


Moros 
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Are you also including Vatican city?

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 13:59:22


Ironheart
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sardenga and the baleric islands connect to no mainland

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 16:20:04


Срећко
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"Currently, nothing happens when you click a bonus (they're not linked with territories yet), but just hover over Belarus and read the tooltip that pops up: "Russia"."
Fixed.

"Are you also including Vatican city?"
I don't know. Should I?

"sardenga and the baleric islands connect to no mainland"
Thx for information. :D
I will connect it at the end...

"the value of the Madrid bonus is in a five-pointed star, instead of the circle you've used for all other bonuses. Do you have special plans with capital cities or something?"
It will be capitals cities in distribution.

"The bonuses within each State are meant to map unto administrative divisions? If that is the case, in Spain there should only be two Castillas (Castilla León and Castilla la Mancha), and not four (Castilla, Castilla la Mancha, Castilla Nueva and León)."
Almost no country is divided as it is in reality, due to better fit the game. There shouldn't be a bonus more than 15 territories so that's why I separated 4 Castillas.

Matma Rex
Thx for ideas.;)

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 17:25:20


Moros 
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I think Vatican City should be included, because San Marino is too. And because no map for so far shows dwarf nations, and I'm glad you did.

Btw, are you adding Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia too? Because those are African countries.
And Lithuania is called Lietuva, and there are no bonus links for Luxembourg, Cyprus or Kalinigrad.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 17:30:05

Segrain
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@Matma Rex
One more way to do two bonus links pointing to the same territory that possibly can work: if you want, for example, three links to a bonus that gives you +4 armies, you can make three separate bonuses, give them (if possible) the same name, add all the territories you want and make a bonus link for each bonus. Now you have three links, each link has "4" over it and points to those territories; the only problem is, it would give +12 instead of +4, since it's actually different bonuses. So you make one more bonus that consist of all the same territories, don't make a link at all (if it's impossible, just hide link somewhere) and give that bonus a value of -8.
That's a lot of work, but I guess it would work without breaking every time you try to open it again.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 17:41:28


Domenico
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That would effectively mean four different bonuses (with different names), one of which would not be visible. I think that would be very confusing...

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 17:46:28


Moros 
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Okay, sorry for the double post, but I noticed this: you didn't make the bonus link of capitals other then Madrid a star, even though Lisbon has it own bonus. And I found a missing connection: the southernmost territory of La Rioja in Spain doesn't connect to the westernmost territory of Castilla. Nice connections I must say. Were they all made by hand, or did you used Matma's generator?

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 18:22:17


Срећко
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Thank you Moros for information. It's all made by hand, what is a Matma's generator?

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 18:30:38


Moros 
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Matma Rex made a connection generator for WarLight maps. It is not perfect yet, and it takes several hours, but then you've got all of the connections of the map already uploaded. It only doesn't work good on multipart-territories, and places that don't touch with a centerpoint, but only with a line. He also made a centerpoint generator, and a tool to automatically make all of your territories have ID's.

Big map of Europe: 1/14/2012 22:25:52


Matma Rex 
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Yeah, see http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Automating_the_map_creation_process (I've just written this page yesterday).

Big map of Europe: 1/15/2012 11:29:04


Moros 
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Belgrade - Macva (can't type that weird c)
Entire Romania - entire Moldova

Big map of Europe: 1/15/2012 19:05:53


i-like-swords
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According to Wikipedia, Kosovo is governed as a separate region according to the Serbian administration. Therefore, I think that Kosovo and Metohija should be a separate bonus and the remaining areas of the Southern Serbia bonus be joined with the Eastern Serbia bonus. See this link

Big map of Europe: 1/15/2012 22:14:17


Ironheart
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this map is looking good but i disagree with population size super bonus

Big map of Europe: 1/15/2012 23:22:33

Ser Andrei of Nín
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Really nice map, I like it.

I also think Segrain's solution is a good one if you want to show multiple bonuslinks.

If you need help with Dutch/Belgian names, I might be able to help (though Wikipedia is easier)

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