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Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:12:39


Japanball
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We could set aside land from immigrants to come to, separate to native society. If they, over a set period of time, prove themselves to be law abiding and there is space in the country, they can integrate. If they are not law abiding, they can stay there or go somewhere else.
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:13:42


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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lmfao good laugh
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:14:17

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^I agree. Let's do it in Africa.
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:17:33


Japanball
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Trouble is, there need to be a place it can be done. In Africa, everywhere's full due to excessive reproduction and/or too hostile. Maybe we can use a place like Montana or SW Wales
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:20:45

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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First of all, humanity originated in Africa. Hence "immigrate to Africa" makes no sense. Instead anyone moving to Africa is just returning to his/her ancestral home. There can be no immigrants to Africa unless you are talking about exotic animals in zoos that did not live there before.

Secondly Africa is still quite sparsely populated compared to other regions. Hence returning to Africa is certainly possible for the diaspora (i.e. anyone currently not living in Africa).

Last but not least, Africa, the homeland of humanity, is right now seriously underdeveloped due to peafowlism. It's our responsibility to annex it into civilizations.

Edited 8/26/2017 19:31:32
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:23:29


Japanball
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So basically, you're for ultra-anchoring?
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:25:50

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^?
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:35:07


Japanball
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I should be able to be a citizen of my place because by great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent lived there.
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:36:44

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Exactly. Hence Sub-Saharan Africa should not be allowed to close its borders to anyone. That region belongs to the entire humanity.
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:39:43


Japanball
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But my great-great-great-great-great-grandmother was from Asia, s I should be able to go there freely!
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 19:40:58

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Iran? Central Asia? Sure. The same logic has to apply. Not everyone can claim what you claim though.

However all humans came from Sub-Saharan Africa so it should be designed a special free Aliyah zone where everyone should be able to move there.

We should also build a museum of human history there.

Edited 8/26/2017 19:44:15
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 20:11:23

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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🐱👑🌍!
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 20:31:00


OxTheAutist 
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Yeah, segregation worked out so well in the past. Are you high?
Idea for immigration: 8/26/2017 20:33:21


OxTheAutist 
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Also, you don't seem to have a very well developed view of population density. Africa isn't that densely populated, yet, and some places aren't dense at all. The Sahara isn't densely populated, and never will be.

"well duh the sahara is sparse for a reason"

so is Montana. The weather's shit, there are no cities, the terrain's not good for anything. Sounds a lot like the Sahara tbh.
Idea for immigration: 8/27/2017 03:27:53

TabbyCat
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^Montana is much better than the Sahara in terms of the environment.

"There are no cities"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena,_Montana

Falsified.

"the terrain's not good for anything"

http://www.farmflavor.com/montana/montanas-top-10-agricultural-products

Falsified.

Tabby 1 NTs 0

Edited 8/27/2017 03:30:38
Idea for immigration: 8/27/2017 05:42:37

strongkillaz
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wait wtf im back and there are TWO tabbys?!

o god
Idea for immigration: 8/27/2017 13:59:44

(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Implying that there are only two tabbies.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:14:16


OxTheAutist 
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a whOOOOOle thirty thousand people!!!!11one

lmao such city
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:15:27

[FEL]Chatul
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^You have lost. It is a city. It satisfies the definition of a city, NT.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:22:38


Жұқтыру
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamanrasset

also the definition of a city is pretty subjective. mostly the governments choose it. There are "cities" of less than 1000 folk in the world.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:24:40

[FEL]Chatul
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^So what? I was right and Ox failed. He failed to check the facts before making his claim. If I did that I would have conceded defeat and modified my claim. There is nothing shameful about making a mistake.

Edited 8/28/2017 01:25:40
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:31:20


Жұқтыру
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let's play the "rationalist taboo" game you are fond of.

Ox = city over 100k or so (I'm guessing)
you = whatever the government says
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:34:23

[FEL]Chatul
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^Sure! If that's the case then let's look up more information about Montana.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billings,_Montana

(It is a city in terms of politics and) its population is slightly above 100K. I still have won. Note that Ox can not move the semantic goalpost.

Edited 8/28/2017 02:22:26
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 01:48:32


OxTheAutist 
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Nouakchott is a city in the Sahara with nearly a million people. I was comparing the two regions, because they have a lot of similar traits, hence why they are both sparsely populated. You decided to say that I was wrong because Montana has some small to average size cities..? You did what you usually do, and that is focus in on literally one word instead of comment on the idea at all. Forgive me if I'm jumping to conclusions, but I believe that's a common trait in autistic people. Ubermenschen indeed.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 02:03:52

[FEL]Chatul
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^Nouakchott is a coastal city. To steel man your argument so that we both reach truth let's look for more information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouargla

This seems to be one of the largest cities in the Sahara that is not coastal.

Edited 8/28/2017 02:05:29
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 02:06:50


TeamGuns 
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We could set aside land from immigrants to come to, separate to native society. If they, over a set period of time, prove themselves to be law abiding and there is space in the country, they can integrate. If they are not law abiding, they can stay there or go somewhere else.


I hate this idea for so many reasons.

Firstly, and most obvious one, you'd need the government to buy or seize land from its citizens, and then give it to foreigners. I can only imagine how thrilled people will be when they learn that.

Secondly, you're just gonna create a proxy country inside your own country, segregation never really worked well, and chances are you're just gonna end up with a bunch of people wanting their own laws and rules, making any prospect of them joining the "main" country an impossible thing.

Thirdly, you're not helping anyone assimilate into your country, which MUST be your objective with immigration. You got to offer people education, teach them your culture and language, offer them the same rights as citizens and the same duties as well.

Fourthly, the best way to assimilate large ammounts of migrants is to spread them out in your country, putting everyone into "guettos" will make it impossible for them to really become citizens.

Lastly, it's very hard to measure if someone is ready to integrate your society, you have very subjective jugements to make, you need to put a lot of ressources into it, and at the end of the day you can just fail, letting people that shouldn't enter, in, and people that should enter, out (a lot like prison lol).
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 02:07:20

[FEL]Chatul
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However I'm not sure that Montana is necessarily mainly sparsely populated for geographical reasons. Hence let's look up its climate.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 04:53:33


BUFFALO
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lets give a bunch of foreigners their own free colony within our nation! great idea japanball
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 04:56:21


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Ox got deleted.
Idea for immigration: 8/28/2017 22:34:50


OnlyThePie
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Lol who's gonna give up their land for this?
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