He surrendered. AKA we won. I can now say I beat Gui.

I know I am just new here but is there still a way to join?

i haven't beaten him before 10 v10 europe

i meant i have

Yeah Blueberry, just add the [X] call sign in front of your name. You'll then start to get invites to the clan games and tutorials.

I'm interested in this....

Can I join?

Just to point out a couple things:

Gui says he never attacked anyone first. He attacked me and my clan as well as clans in general in a thread before I ever attacked him.

Gui goes on half of the clan threads to troll about how dumb they are, then makes his own clan. That's the definition of Hypocrisy.

Gui created that game with us, which had only friendly public chat like "why should we listen to you ordering us around" and once we actually joined and he didn't get all of his first picks, he surrendered to save face. I'd guess he expected us to decline and then he'd have bragging rights.

He also said that whomever lost would never talk on the forums again, and he lost, yet is still posting.


p.s. I'd never join a "help group" without free drinks (or at least drinks in general).

1. Incorrect. The first attack: [unknown brought up 20, you attacked me gratuitously.](http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=2891)

2. Not true. Principle 2 of [The Guide to Forum Logic](http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=3055), which is a parody of most forum discussions, says that attacking clans is a good idea (ie, this is what many do and I actually consider it a waste of time.

3. Wrong again. I made the game hoping to defuse your forum aggression. I failed. I got my top two picks (you should've checked the game history before making this statement). And I stated [in the game's chat](http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=2181150) why I surrendered (maybe you didn't read that?): my AIs had great positioning; they didn't try to take their bonuses; instead they stood still; I had two enemies, no bonus, base income of 1; it was over, I surrendered.

Beating any 5 players with 4 AIs would've been fun. I would've put it on my favorite games for a few weeks and eventually remove it (like how I've done 5 other times with similar games). I've beat you before Eagle, I've never bragged about it. Why would I now?

4. I bet you. 2 of you declined the bet. 3 of you said nothing (which is equivalent to declining the bet). After I surrendered, 2 of you are now accepting the bet. Bets don't work this way.

Stop attacking me with nonsense please.

It's pretty funny that two of you are so ecstatic about having beaten Gui + 4 AIs. Congrats, quite the accomplishment.

Well, it certainly resolved a burning question I'm sure we have all had:

*With 2 starts of 8 and base income at 1, it is almost always the case that* 4 AIs + 1 HI < 5 HIs.

1 - that was not an attack

2 - a vain attempt to disguise the fact that I was right?

3 - You know that AIs are idiots, yet you purposely set the game up that way, so I don't see why you were surprised or upset about the way they played.

1 (2?) - we joined the game....that was the accepting of your challenge...

@Bishes - I don't at think that it was an accomplishment, but he came at us being cocky like "I can win with AI teammates" and then quit because he was sad about the way they (his teammates) played.

@Gui - "I've beat you before Eagle" 2/3 games (one of which I was booted from)....wow, you're so good. I see the error of my ways Gui, you're so much better than me so my opinions clearly have no basis or standing. I'll never call you out on your obvious hypocrisy or bullshit again. We'll just all let you go about your ways of breaking commitments, , your asinine hubris, and your opinions that are in fact against your own actions.

Eagle, I really don't care about your ideas, but I do want to avoid being slandered.

Joining a game is not accepting a bet. As a kid, I played pool with my brother in my basement hundreds of times. Sometimes I owned all of his possessions, at other times I only owned the shirt on my back. Before games, we made bets and we agreed to them. Sometimes we didn't agree and still played. Such games were for fun only. In Beijing I started a company. I often met with businessmen to discuss the signing of contracts. We sat down together for meals. We didn't always sign the contract. The meal itself was not equivalent to signing the contract. *I bet you. You didn't agree to the bet before the game started. We played for fun. Now you are agreeing to the bet after the game ended. Two others in that game joined AFTER declining the bet.*

Stating that I beat you before was to show that beating you is not worth bragging about.

I wish Fizzer could add a blacklist feature for the forum so the words of any blacklisted player cannot be read. This would solve so many problems. If you don't like me, blacklist me. If I don't like you, I'll blacklist you. The negativity would be reduced instantly and there would be fewer responses to attacks, thus nipping many fights in the bud.

It was a stupid bet, and a stupid game. WHy are you so concerned with what others say about you? ANd to get off topic, and talk about the company in Beijing you started, I assume it was all by your lonesome? Interesting that you were able to pull that off and be (I assume) succcessful, as it is quite a tough thing for a LaoWai to accomplish without a Chinese name on the contract. Not impossible, of course.

Tex, if I attacked you for no reason and started making incorrect assumptions about your games, your personal life, and/or your person, would you respond? (Remember, it is all anonymous. Only Fizzer knows who we really are. lol)

In Beijing: I had guanxi. But the "little prince" wanted to break tax laws and keep our business as an extralegal (to him, illegal to me) entity. So I left. Maybe it's somewhat similar in Taiwan: my wife and I recently bought a house, but, since I refuse to get a spousal visa, only my wife's name can be on the contract.

Dude, I really could care less what people I don't know say about me on the internet. Although I would like to point out that while I don't some of the things you do (in terms of the forum), I try to stay away from some of the petty, juvenile attacks on your sexuality, etc. I really didn't understand some of the vitriol I have directed at you, until the thread about WLer's ages came up.

And yeah, business-wise, it's really really difficult to stand alone, without any Chinese assistance. Essentially, any business you want to start up is undoubtedly going to compete with a Chinese with more guangxi than you, a mere foreigner. They are a great people, but I try not to get between a Chinaman and his money, nothing good can come of it.

Are you one of the business owners in Yangshuo? I think one of you mentioned there's a climbing business for tourists, a cafe?, a bar?, an English teacher, maybe something else...

@[REGL]Eagleblast37

I completely agree that Gui trolls on clan threads. He has done it on mine, The Clan of Warlighters.

http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=2991&Offset=0

I never even commented on your thread.

oo my........ :-(

Not a business owner, merely a lowly English teacher. I don't really have the entrepenurial spirit. There a few (very few) foreign-owned businesses, but most of them don't last long, and most of them have some sort of Chinese co-owner or silent partner. Place is fickle, bro. In my short time here I have seen enough businesses fail that I don't really want a part of it. If I was in a big city, and felt like spending the money, I might try opening a restaurant, but I really doubt I could get the ingredients I need for such Texas cuisine as I know how to make, although some of the other YS boys could attest to the fact that I make a mean chili (Texas red, NO beans, naturally).