Interestingly the plutocracy of the USA has already understood that, you just didnt yet. Maybe you have to wait until you get it told on CNN, NBC, Fox or whatever. The reason for the growing indepence of South American countries can be partly attributed to the shift of intelligence service activity from almost everywhere (including South America) towards China to face what they perceive as a massive danger to their world hegemony.

I'd rather live 90 years under the Illuminati than 20 in Central Africa. By illuminati, I'm basically summing up all of the mentioned conspiracy crap.

Genghis, capitalism critique =/= conspiracy theory.

forgive me for believing mainstream media and Wikipedia.

Please, go home.

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ARC - whatever the USA is, does that excuse all its crimes (yes crimes). Oh shit sorry you're American. USA!

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Ghengis, see my message addressed to Choombi. You may benefit.

to clarify stuff, I'm not American, I'm an 15 years old Israeli without any formal education on the matter, also, I'm not fat, I'm under-weight(although I'm pretty sure the fat American comment was directed to lawlz)

i hate to argue on details and facts, it's disputable, biased to the extreme, anyone can find the facts he like, there are sites out there dedicated to find statistics/personal stories(which are worse than statistics, those are unintentionally biased) to prove that Islam is taking over the world/china is taking over the world/Illuminati is real/there are aliens/all of the aforementioned are idiots

i generally take all those sites as complete bullshit, I'd rather argue with simple logic, ignore little details(the big picture is what matters), i don't really know much, i snatch the details that seem important, and i damn remember them, and i put a puzzle from them.

Lawlz, do us all a favor and shut the hell up, Pulsey, you got down to his level, so that goes for you too

Master ARC, thank ye for the support, i shall take the advice and get the hell out of this forum :P

Oh god, the laugh is on me. You are 15. Enough said.

Chopmbi, you wish to argue with logic but all your arguements are illogical. You're eventual defence of America was to address Russia's issues instead. That's not a defence.

This new Obama is a weak president Matav only destroys the US Foreign Affairs.
He refers to the forgiveness of terrorism and gave it all one step (eg murder Hsgrirm Libya)
It is clear that China and Russia will take advantage of it, they know that Obama is a weak president and a wimp.
He did not stop any rule of a tyrant or terrorist countries are taking advantage of it.
And most Islamic terrorism sponsored by Saudi Arab Amrit consolidation and Qatar.
For example Arab finance Das.
If it was more serious than all the world would not give a damn about the United States ... he just wants his family golf vacation, guy joke.

Ah yes, a stronger President would have nuked Russia into submission. This Obama is a fucking wimp for not escalating things enough :(

@Elroi They said that about Kennedy. It ended Khrushchev's career.

"He did not stop any rule of a tyrant or terrorist countries are taking advantage of it. "

Someone tell Gaddafi and Laurent Gbagbo about that.

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Bin Laden didn't die he's currently hiding out in North Korea.

Yes, but for example in Egypt ... the government "democratic" Muslim Brotherhood was radical and Obama did not bother him ...
And more annoyed established a secular government that destroyed the "democracy" of the Muslim Brotherhood.
And killed in Libya after Kadfi American trailers, because of an anti-Muslim and He's me did not do anything, I think it's disgusting

@Elroi "He did not stop any rule of a tyrant or terrorist countries are taking advantage of it."

So now you accept that he did stop the rule of tyrants? I don't know of any ruler that never stopped every tyrant and the Muslim Brotherhood was declared illegal by the Egyptian Supreme Court after popular protests against it's rule. I'm not sure that any American President would have supported them against popular protests and the rule of law in Egypt ... If they did people would be saying how America rode roughshod over the institutions of an independent state.

'Democracy' is not just the rule of the majority it is also partly the respect of institutions, such as law courts.

"And killed in Libya after Kadfi American trailers, because of an anti-Muslim and He's me did not do anything, I think it's disgusting"

You'll have to clarify this I'm not sure of your meaning.

Also you never addressed my point about Kennedy ... you can't judge Obama just yet. In fact I see a lot of similarities between the two, both democrats, both liberal. One was the first ever Catholic President - which they said would never happen, one the first black President which they said would never happen, both reformers both attempted rapprochement with America's enemies ... Unfortunately for Obama I think he'll have to be assassinated like Kennedy before he'll be loved.

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Comparing Obama to Kennedy? ^^

Oh Oh Oh I can play this game too

State the obvious right?

You typed words.

Did I win?

it was a draw

I do not know what Kennedy did ... but I know what Obama is doing.
And I'm talking about a murder American ambassadors in Libya, after the rule Kadfi

Oh god, the laugh is on me. You are 15. Enough said.

angry stare
SO, I'm a few years younger than you, so I'm probably some immature idiot, just because I'm not an adult i don't deserve respect? you look down upon me based on a date...how dare you, kids are smarter than you think, all of them, not referring to myself here, but to EVERYONE, i hate and loathe so much when people argue, and they get pissed off, so they assume the other guy is 13 years old or some other bullshit, well, i given the fact that i am younger than you, HUZZAH, insta-win for you, right?

do not disrespect younglings, kids and teens are awesome, and in many ways are smarter than adults, they aren't as close-minded they are much more willing to change their opinion, something which i have done a lot in the past few years. more than that, they just live a lot better, having more fun, and their life are more than wake up-go to job-sleep(my biggest nightmare)

"I do not know what Kennedy did ... but I know what Obama is doing."

'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'

-George Santayana-

What a speech ... but frankly most kids that age do not know their life.
But there are occasional readers.