i close my eyes and click randomly to play warlight, really i'm just very lucky
very, very lucky

melan, if it's all about skill and calculation why are you pouty in circumstances that are obviously based on luck? If it is all based on reason you should remain calm and cool at all times and recognize and appreciate superior skill when beaten. but you often pout as if the result of a turn/game were unexpected due to the influence of luck.

Mmmm are you sure of being so much different from szezi? Actually in this case yoou are much worse because at least he is aware of his nature. From your statement it is pretty evident that when you lose a game it is never your fault but it is always bad luck! I mean since you play perfectly being unlucky it is the only reasonable explanation right?

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melan's skill categories: picks: are there always worst case scenario options? what if the opponent is your equal and gets lucky enough in picks to cut you off from your worst case scenario? and instead of a worst case scenario you just get worse picks? attack-defense luck and management: if the enemy hits you with a 4v3 or 5v4 or 9v6 to win a key territory to gain a decisive advantage and you did all you could to stop it, is your loss due to luck management or just bad luck? if you flip 100 coins simultaneously how do you manage the flips to accurately predict if there are more heads or tails? and if you can't, why even spend the time flipping coins if skill is not involved?

I am prous you didn't read what I have written!
I have said that luck is mainly irrilevant, not totally. Of course in your scenarios luck would be the decisive factor, but when you play you don't even consider those situations, why? Because they are mainly irrilevant indeed:/

I. I think I should limit myself to simpler sentences:

1. Sze was my first account.
2. Again, I lose for three reasons. First, the other guy made the right moves to win. Second, luck was insurmountable. Third, I could've done better.
3. Luck is the decisive factor in all games? I never said that.
4. What didn't I consider? You read 10 words and assume 100. Do you know how I think when I play? If so could you explain?
5. I can't really say much about your ideas. You limit them to vague, short sentences that could be used by Fizzer when games are loading: "It is wise to attack with at least twice as many armies as the enemy has to defend." Mind explaining your ideas?
6. Are you arguing things I assume are implied (different styles or strategic approaches make the "more or less equal" phrase difficult to measure, since certain boards/layouts/situations/positions make stylistic differences the decisive factor)? I'm simply putting forth a theory and trying to state it in the most basic words possible.

Meh everything I have written above the hr stuff was trolling:/

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Majority of games (50%-65%): L
Some games (10%-15%): all S
Some games (20%-30%): L and S both contribute, unclear which is most important
Some games (5%-15%): winner has L and S advantage
Some games (5%-15%): winner has S advantage and L disadvantage

3. Luck is the decisive factor in all games? I never said that.

I am not sure if I am answering with short phrases, without big explanations, because the argument is boring, or because you contradict yourselves so much that there is no need f longer sentences:O

Luck or chance is fortune (whether bad or good) which occurs beyond one's control, without regard to one's will, intention, or desired result. There are at least two senses people usually mean when they use the term, the prescriptive sense and the descriptive sense. In the prescriptive sense, luck is a supernatural and deterministic concept that there are forces (e.g. gods or spirits) which prescribe that certain events occur very much the way laws of physics will prescribe that certain events occur. It is the prescriptive sense that people mean when they say they "do not believe in luck". In the descriptive sense, luck is a word people give after the occurrence of events which they find to be fortuitous or unfortuitous, and maybe improbable.Cultural views of luck vary from perceiving luck as a matter of random chance to attributing to such explanations of faith or superstition. For example, the Romans believed in the embodiment of luck as the goddess Fortuna, while the philosopher Daniel Dennett believes that "luck is mere luck" rather than a property of a person or thing. Lucky symbols are popular worldwide and take many forms.

It's good that copying and pasting for no reason is so fun. Because the argument is so boring.

gui, stop sayign shit and get back to the ladder....

oh... u did:

Huckleberry Finn vs skunk940 3679741 skunk940: 1068
Huckleberry Finn defeated {101st}Blowfly 3680153 1/16/2013 4:32:05 PM {101st}Blowfly: 1034
Huckleberry Finn defeated Johnny O 3680704 1/15/2013 3:51:40 PM Johnny O: 1211
Huckleberry Finn defeated [REGL] majokun 3681294 1/14/2013 12:33:30 PM [REGL] majokun: 1439
Huckleberry Finn defeated funeraljames 3679740 1/14/2013 5:58:21 AM funeraljames: 1116

Yeah, and then I quit. This account is best for banter.

Melon vs Hurry http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3735925

- pick order luck: 1-5 are the same. melon got the important two: xinjiang (india should be neutralized) and scand (safest, quickest bonus on the board). that leaves hurry with only aust and a chance at w africa, depending on how he plays it. game was won on pick order luck.
- skill: sa was not the safest bonus or the quickest yet melon went for it anyway. this gave hurry time to take aust. though this would only matter if melon was equally risky in his moves as he is with his strategy. he is not. game over.

why do you think xinjiang is better than india? I think N africa would have been better 6th pick (for both of them) would you agree?

xinjiang: psychological advantage. india is likelier to be possessive about the bonus, and waste time/troops to possess it. xinjiang is likelier to use tibet too.

north africa: i don't know. can't go to mygames any more.

melon==>moron.

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moron thinks that gui is not considering the fact that west russia could have been a good 6 pick as well. (previously moron has put a deeper explanation of his first statement, but moron is still confident in gui's deductive skills) I am pretty happy because that game proves my point better than all your argumentations (or supposed to be so). But moron might be wrong, after all moron is a moron:/

you know the enemy is in w africa. you try to take it anyway. sometimes taking a 4 bonus in 2 turns fails. what if he charged sa?

you don't know if he is in russia. what if he is? so you battle in russia, india and sa/africa. are you at a disadvantage? he has to hit more neutrals to see you.

you don't know if he is in russia. do you know hurry's tendencies? some people dislike russia. some prefer 5s. why did you think he was in russia? wild guess? why did you think he wouldn't bullrush sa? wild guess?

why wouldn't he have 2 in africa?

sometimes taking a 4 bonus in 2 turns fails. what if he charged sa?

Don't you think you should use adverbs more carefully if you pretend to be the grammar sheriff too?

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you don't know if he is in russia. what if he is? so you battle in russia, india and sa/africa. are you at a disadvantage? he has to hit more neutrals to see you.

you don't know if he is in russia. do you know hurry's tendencies? some people dislike russia. some prefer 5s. why did you think he was in russia? wild guess? why did you think he wouldn't bullrush sa? wild guess?

I am losing my confidence in gui's deductive skills.

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why wouldn't he have 2 in africa?

Lolowut please go with the facepalm stuff!!!

sorry. simple english:

- he have multiple options. u have intel. intel no say he in russia. intel say he in africa.
- y u think he russian? u silly boy talk talk talk no answer questions.
- y u think he no go sa strong like bull?
- what u know about hurry picking and playing style? is it helpful?

me ask many questions. only want show many uncertainties. me no know hurry. no know enough trust sa. no know russia. assume he know u in sa. scand feel safer. worse case scenario: u bbattle in three places. attack 9 in scand first move. he in russia maybe he pop up. he no pop up scand is yours and you can enter russia with 3-5 late, maybe hit hurry and keep him from get bonus.

OH GOD. PALM TREES AND FACEBOOK.

LOL ! like wut? whatever dude. get palm trees thingy picture stuff yeah man ~:/ {@^@}

Ask Billy Walsh about provocative knitting thread. don't hand palm self.

sorry for triple double post man.. 脑筋腐化哦哦真的也真的假的是吧是吗我的天阿怎么可能怎样！

Silli trolli thinks (4) hurry no bull so (3) he knows he wouldn't have charged sa cos hurry no bull, (2) before of having played the game silli trolli has read an article in wich it was written that there aren't bulls in russia, so he thinks: hey hurry no bull! hurry might be there! After that he went to check if hurry was a panda, but hurry no panda as well! so he realizes: hey hurry is kangaroo! better to shoot the kangaroo before he punches me! (1) you are right! he could have been a koala, a kangaroo, or an ural owl, silli trolli knows he is not a bull so that he thinks: hey I know hurry africa but I know hurry no bull! go for sa!!!

this thread has degraded below even my low standards of trollability

When it comes to ladder rating, luck like this (not between two good players) can have the worst impact. Note I also got first pick so the rating drop was higher :P

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3492651