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Forced flag: 10/22/2014 16:50:25

Hennns
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if you really want to change it, simply use Hola (chrome exstention) and pick the country you want it to show. It is free and works.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hola-better-internet/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio?hl=en

Edited 10/22/2014 16:51:11
Forced flag: 10/22/2014 17:36:40


Ska2D2 
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@ Hennns - yes it does work, tried it for a while, but it's slow to load, locks you into using chrome and stops you using the app

@ Ps I do use Tor, but it doesn't support flash as you probably well know so no use here.

@ Inca As I have already joined the site, and paid membership "Not joining the site is slightly difficult no?

Also I agree with the rest of your comment except: "So if you want to fight the sharing of personal information without consent this is not the place to do it."

I don't agree with this, if any fight is worth fighting, you fight it everywhere, yes you can fight in a place where you're victory means more but only speaking up when something is at the point where you think it is a serious problem to you reminds me of Niemöller:

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

If you see something as being the first step towards an even worse situation later, you speak up. Even before it's a problem for you, if we don't defend the rights of others who will speak for us?

I'll admit this isn't a major issue for me - my earlier posts - Pink quoted one shows that. But choice over personal information is important and when people come on and spout childish taunts in lieu of having a reasonable opinion ... yeah it makes me want to reply.

(Edit: Also - why should workarounds be a substitute for choice?)

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Forced flag: 10/22/2014 17:53:39


skunk940 
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Under the Data Protection Act of 1998 the following data is illegal to be broadcasted by any Company:

The racial or ethnic origin of the data subject.
His/Her political opinions.
His/Her religious beliefs or other beliefs of a similar nature.
Whether he/she is a member of a trade union (within the meaning of the M1Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992).
His/Her physical or mental health or condition.
His/Her sexual life.
The commission or alleged commission by him/her of any offence.
Any proceedings for any offence committed or alleged to have been committed by him/her, the disposal of such proceedings or the sentence of any court in such proceedings.

A company can share most information about you (including country) with no given reason. You can ask to have it removed but they only have to do so where the sharing causes you unjustified damage or distress. This applies to most countries including the UK and USA.

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Forced flag: 10/22/2014 18:58:31


skunk940 
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AKA It's perfectly in the law.
Forced flag: 10/22/2014 19:54:51


Taishō 
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Displaying IP location is not in any way illegal so long as the IP address itself is not publicly exposed.

Also, just use eliteproxyswitcher, that's how I have a German IP even though I speak fluent English. I'm actually from Hong Kong, where the search term democracy-porn is blocked. Germany practically invented the term (demokratische Pornografie). I wanted to use a Ghanese IP, but there's only like two and they're both being used at the moment.
Forced flag: 10/22/2014 21:31:22


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Haha, if the NSA or any government wants to know where you live Warlight having a hide flags option wouldn't impede them in the slightest. I would like the hide flag option but it's not a serious thing.
Forced flag: 10/23/2014 00:35:18


Ranek
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"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."


You must be kidding Ska. Do you really compare the flags within warlight with the holocaust? Have you ever heard about proportionality? or are you just the dumbest idiot on planet earth? and dont get me wrong these are serious questions no offending facts! just tell me that you dont trivialize the genocide on millions of people, in that pathetic way!
Forced flag: 10/23/2014 03:01:13


Ska2D2 
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Wow lateral thinking is really not your strong point is it?

Tell me, when someone uses a metaphor around you does that cause your head to ache?

"He was a treacherous snake" ... you over hear this and start looking for snakes? Then rage at the speaker because there were in fact no snakes?

If you read what I said you will find no mention of the holocaust, what you will read is an example of not saying that you think something shouldn't be happening because at that point it doesn't really bother you. Because things progress and at some point they will concern you.

"I don't agree with this, if any fight is worth fighting, you fight it everywhere, yes you can fight in a place where you're victory means more but only speaking up when something is at the point where you think it is a serious problem to you reminds me of Niemöller:"

^^ So you read that and thought this guy has learned from Niemöller that at any point you should be prepared to be a minority and stand out, and say what you think even when you could be quiet and wait for it to be a problem for you. ... And you got from that that I'm an idiot? That I trivialize? Really?

Edited 10/23/2014 03:05:58
Forced flag: 10/23/2014 10:15:21


Ranek
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Tell me, when someone uses a metaphor around you does that cause your head to ache?


first of all this is a quote, describing the situation of fear in germany during the deportation of the intellectuals, political opponents and jews. It includes subjects like socialists, trade unionists and jews. do you really want to compare a system of abduction and murder that paralyzed the people with fear with the flags in warlight, which might harm your weird sense of privacy? You are right this is a metaphor, but with a certain meaning and you absolutely failed to use it in a proper way. and as you use it on purpose, more or less seriously, it is extremely offending and absolutely poor.
Forced flag: 10/24/2014 03:25:43


Ska2D2 
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I really worry for you.

By the way I don't really worry for you ... I know after reading that first sentence you are sitting there thinking I am. It's a rhetorical device what it really means is I think you fail to understand rhetorical devices, so I think your intellect is not the best.

But I say I really worry for you. It's shorter and it means the same thing, most people can make that connection and understand it, I explained it for you, because you seem to think that using any kind of metaphor or illustrative situation means you are 100% comparing that situation to this.

Wouldn't that make language difficult? If we couldn't say things like "Oh that painting reminds me of Monet's impressionism - it really captures the moment" ... because someone like Ranek would pipe up and shout at us ... "MONET is DEAD he LIVED 100 YEARS AGO HOW CAN IT BE SIMIILAR!?"

You cannot have read the full conversation, otherwise you could not be this obtuse, Incaman said

"So if you want to fight the sharing of personal information without consent this is not the place to do it. "

And I said I disagree and that if you were going to fight any battle you should be prepared to fight it everywhere as Niemöller shows us [quoted Niemöller].

If I see an element of something in one thing I can compare it to another thing. I can. Get over it.

It doesn't mean I am saying it is exactly the same, it means I see an element that is similar, this is called nuance, you obviously don't understand it.

Edited 10/24/2014 03:36:38
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Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Impossible to debate with these people Ska. Wait for somebody with some intelligence to take a stack against your point of view.
Forced flag: 10/24/2014 11:55:52


Ranek
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Ska, could you finally stop waffling and start mention something relevant to this off topic discussion? It is exhausting to even read so much bullshit at once...

I really worry for you.
By the way I don't really worry for you [..]
I really worry for you.


Do you know what you want to say or even what you finally have written? As your entire reply is full of meaningless, hollow phrases, inane, invented cross references as well as premises and polemic (which is always a proof for stupidity and lack of arguments) it might be a waste of time to continue arguing in a serious way. You vehemently pointed out the meaning of the word metaphor. As you seem to be the master of rhetoric speech and figures of speech you should actually know that the meaning of a metaphor and terms in generall depends on the point of view by every individuum. Unfortunately it doesnt have any relevance in your specific case, cause you rather used a historic quote instead of an appropriate metaphor.

[But, but but] I don't agree with this, if any fight is worth fighting, you fight it everywhere, yes you can fight in a place where you're victory means more but only speaking up when something is at the point where you think it is a serious problem to you reminds me of Niemöller:"


maybe you think it is extra eloquent to rip fancy quotes, you have once heard, out of their historical context and change their meaning until it fits into your troll message. But needless to say it is not. You want to fight the evil? and you think the flags here are worth fighting them? Holy crap! Just go ahead, but pls dont profess to be intelligent. This is hilarious.

Arun, as you guys are so horny for quotes, I have one for you made by Albert Einstein: Even an idiot finds someone more stupid, who will follow him.
Forced flag: 10/24/2014 12:55:55


Ska2D2 
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Metaphor is an example of using one thing to describe another. Important word 'example'. Making up things that I didn't say then wasting lines saying it's wrong is worse than a strawman. It's just you making things up.

I didn't rip it out of it's historical context I said exactly what Niemöller wanted us to get from his essay. That refusing to say that you don't agree with something until it has past the point where saying you don't agree with it is useless. Is not the best thing.

So if I said to you, Oh you quoted Einstein, he paved the way for the hydrogen bomb that killed many thousands in Japan. You are trivializing the deaths of thousands of individuals.

Would I be right? No of course I wouldn't be. You are merely using a quote to help describe something.

Edited 10/24/2014 13:07:16
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