On Italy 1 will play 2 guys called Gnuffone and Beelzebù, should be enough :D
On Germany Timinator ;)
I don't know about France and USA east.

Yes, those are good players.
But we're talking about a TEAM here.

Just a week ago you were not even able to make a team and right now you're supposed to be ranked into the top tier ??
I don't get that at all....

I think that the two things are not related. It took me a long time to make the team, because I talked to a lot.
A prerequisite for play for me was to convince Beelzebub.
Also, I laughed 5 minutes when I read "good player" ;D

Gnuffone, we all know you deem yourself a legend who in his mind deserves to be called more then just a "mere" good player, but so long as I still win more then 1/4th of the games we play together I'll refrain from bowing down to you oke ? :)

I am pretty sure that if we play 1v1 ME i could easily win more then 75%.
Also about "good player", don't speak about me, speak about timi and beelz...aren't 2 only good player, cmon! :)
Anyway this friday (12 july) i have my last exam. After some holiday i should be able to make some challenge to some ppl. ( including you :P )

What about we don't play 1vs1 ME but play 1vs1 season VII mode or 1vs1 Guiroma or 1vs1 something else ?

Usually on challenge we play classic setting we will see.

We could let all team captains rank all teams, then take the average of all those ratings and decide the "top eight" based on that. I mean, we've got an entire week left right, might as well find something to do to pass the time. :p

Oeh, I know! If we assume good players are also good at judging the strength of other players we don't have to settle for the average, we could take the weighed average, that sounds fancy, so it must be accurate!!!111

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On a more serious note, how about dividing the 32 participating team into four groups of eight (A, B, C, D). Then we have eight matches between A and B as well as eight matches between C and D (all randomly assigned of course). The winner of each AB is then matched with the winner of each CD.

All teams from the same country get the same letter; this assures they cannot meet in the first two rounds. We simply trust the random generator not to put all the strong teams in one part of the tree. That also means we won't have to argue about it either!

@Math Wolf, i dont want to be the one bring the news, but you brought up wrong information, the final result was 9x4 (it was only real close all the way, all open matches).
(@Aranka)But yeah, i forgot nederlands and flanders, i maybe can change my vote about east us, and put your team. We definetely need a list of all registrations to seed properly.


@RvW - I prefer to not trust random generator and to use seed. I am a tournament bracket maniac and i assure all you want can be done. To assure team of same nation dont play each other combined with a seeding system is actually simple.
You actually sort out each team and what are the viable bracket for them to be, instaed of sorting one bracket at a time.

For now I think we can have 2 seed groups AND not allow same nations confrontations before semifinal.

Dunga, are you planning on calling all the leaders together to vote? Because with a lot of people voting, it woudl be more accurate I think. Maybe give 2 points to the Tier A teams and 1 point to Tier B teams, and zero to the other 16.

No offence JSA but that is the most stupid suggestion I've ever heard.

You want people to vote for the division of the different tiers and yet the votes of the teams in the higher tier count for more ??
Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of the voting process ?

You misunderstood what he wrote.

You can make 8 votes worth 2 points, and 8 votes worth 1 point.

I think its fair.

All Captains/teams plz repost your line-up in this thread http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=6331, so we can have more organized.

It doesn't seem like that's what he meant though dunga

And even if we go along with what you propose here you will have 32 players all giving 16 votes......seems like a lot of hassle to me

Aranka, I don't know how you misunderstood it that bad. I didn't word it well but dunga understood exactly what I meant. And it won't be that much hassle, it's worth it I think.

Hey Aranka, you forgot to remind everybody about your 14-3 victory over WM!

:O

What is the final setting of this? How many games? Any restrictions?

Team Germany 1 like last time?

A little necromancy to bring this thread back up?

When it comes to seeding, I think the most fair thing would be to seed based on the previous Nations Cup rather than by reputation/popularity. The effect of that would be the quarterfinalists in pool 1 and the losing round of 16 teams in pool 2:

Quarterfinalists / Pool 1:
Brazil
Norway
Netherlands&Flanders
Serbia
Germany
Israel
Italy
US East

Round of 16 losers / Pool 2:
Britain & Ireland 1
Britain & Ireland 2
Canada
France
Lithuania
Poland
US Central
US West

The teams are all there in the new Nations Cup, though the Poland 2 players who made round of 16 don't seem to make up Poland 2, so the logical thing is to seed Poland 1.

Basing seeding on results rather than vote is a value in itself (more fair, and most would argue more accurate), but also it'd save us from having to do a lot of work with compiling votes.

Question 1: Would this leave any obviously very strong (pool 1) teams out of seeding altogether?
Question 2: Is there any reason other than a "yes" on Question 1 to not do it this way?

Yeon, the last Nation's Cup was a year ago. I was on US Central 2 at the time cause I was not very good. For starters, US Central 1 will add me and Gui which would most definitely put us above a few teams currently in Pool 1. France has grona, Mian, Niko, Marc, 4 former #1's on the ladder and you're gonna keep them out of Pool 1? There are many other changes to the lineups that should be done as well I think, things change over the course of a year, players get better, much better, and some decline in skill.

I think part of the reason why you would want to do it this way is so your team can be in Pool 1, because I think Norway could possibly be voted into Pool 1 but I wouldn't say it is likely. Let's do it the most accurate way instead of hanging on to past results.

as usual, it seems the loudest teams get to be in the top group... sigh.