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French Shootings: 1/11/2015 01:34:38


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Also, Islam is no peaceful religion. They are divided ( i cant spell the names for the two factions but they have different opinions about the proftes and imans) and for this division they kill each other. What kind of religion kills each other? Their religious text basically say kill all infidels. Peaceful? what kind of peaceful religion uses fear to spread its ways?( Yes there are peaceful muslims but their text still say kill the infidels)for example- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

find more here http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/24138

http://www.jewishawareness.org/islam-and-the-killing-of-innocents/


Now for people who will use the crusades as an example of christian war.

1: The holy land was filled with Christians, Jews and Muslims who lived peacefully( The peaceful Muslims who don't do the killing part of the religion)((KILLING IS STILL SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN IN THE MUSLIM RELIGION))

2: The Turks came and killed everybody that didn't do Muslim and killed all Muslims that didn't follow the religion all the way.

3: European Leaders were like "whoa these guys are killing people of our religion. Lets use that as an excuse to get some land and other booty, to give the people a higher cause to fight for. Not that of men but of God but really its for me."( It was all purely political)


Now for people who will say God wanted some wars

1: Yes, God wanted the Israelites to war some people

2: But, war isn't a basis of our religion unlike that of Muslims

3: The old testament had all the wars that God wanted. In The new Testament Gods like "You shall love your neighbors and spread our religion with forgiveness and love not with genocide"

I might have forgot to type other reasons, my mind runs faster then my fingers and my mind forgets how to comeback.

Moral: The Muslim religion isn't peaceful
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 01:40:06


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Good for us to leave? We barely held stability when we were in but now that we are gone we practically let hell loose.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 02:13:36

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Xypapy, youve lost. just admit it. China is a dead giant. It will slow down growth, and remain almost as stagnant as japan in two decades. The US system may be wateful, but Chinas is even more. Your people are spending money cleaning up chemical wastelands they created, while we are planning to land on mars in 15 years. And, yes, i meant trillions. GDP PPP is simply an ajustment of real GDP. its like ore and refined metal. And have you ever heard of the "China dream"? Yes, it is that they will become a great economic power. They are now, and they will be for a long time. Now, your people ave no direction to go towards, exept clean the air they breath and the water they drink
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 02:36:37


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Hey, skourby knock knock China makes all our crap and I mean all of it. If we did something they didn't like all they have to do is stop and we be left with a crashed economy. And we don't have many factories to put ourselves back on track if they do.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:05:24

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I know. thats Obamas fault. It could have been avoided if Perry was elected. And no, im afraid its not as simple as that
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:06:27


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Obama= Not good
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:20:39

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Ikr. He did basically nothing to help the economy
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:21:21


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Yep
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:21:41


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Perry. Perry. Perry. It was Obama vs Romney you know.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:24:22


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Skourby and JC your logic seems to be of the "Im alright Jack" kind.
This recession isnt a recession but a decline.
Resourses are running out, the planet is dying and we are on the verge of the next big extinction.
Sea level rise and climate change alone are going to change everything.
We are all going to go down together!

http://www.skepticalscience.com/sea-level-rise-predictions.htm
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:25:19


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No matter, Obama still did nothing for us (other then force us to have insurance and I'm pretty sure that's Ileagle)
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:26:27


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Goatfinger we are all going to die
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:44:29

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No dude... I'm pretty sure the oceans won't reach my city for hundreds of years. There's really nothing to worry about

Edited 1/11/2015 03:47:13
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 03:49:06


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Yes, Islam is not a peaceful religion at all. Thanks Lucid Dreamer for showing.
But moslem will say that there religion is peaceful, and most will not use violence.

This is because:
1: they do not want to fight a war they can not win.
2: they can win this war without fighting*
3: muslims are permitted to lie to non-believers:
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

*They can win without fighting:
While declining, the birthrate of immigrant Muslims in france remains three to four times higher than that of non-Muslim French and there is no specific reason to believe that the Muslim rate will eventually parallel the non-Muslim one.

In conclusion:
Muslims can not turn France in a muslim state by force, but they can turn France in a muslim state by waiting until they are the majority(what will happen).

A law from 1872 prohibits the French Republic from conducting census by making any distinction between its citizens in terms of race or religious beliefs, so it's a bit hard to determine when the majority will be muslim...

Could someone try to calculate when there will be born more babies from muslims than non-muslim?
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 04:09:12

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Dude, the Muslim immigration is mostly due to the wars in the Middle East. It is only temporary.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 04:11:44


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Hahahhaha what makes you think middle east will be in peace? They haven't had peace since the world was made!
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 04:30:19


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Wow, looks like you gave me loads to argue against the 3-4 hours I was gone. Wait for a detailed response.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 04:48:39


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where you will simply call us all ignorant but only back up your facts with your high and mighty liberal opinion on how we should now go and fix everything, our fault or not. I promise if you bring out some "Islam is peaceful I will pull out videos of Imams on the News telling newscasters Isalm is not peace, Islam means submission, by force or by choice, they are not a religion founded on peace, can they achieve it, yeas, are there tons of peace loving muslims, yes. Will they every come to power in their countries? at this rate no.
French Shootings: 1/11/2015 05:13:39


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à Julius first comment string: I was wrong about China having an active army larger than the US population. I looked it up. Somebody told me that, and I was gullible...I will not make this mistake twice.

The September 11 attack may not have necessarily had government involvement, but it certainly gave a reason to push a good reason to invade a splendid oily country. The point of the Iraq War was not really so much as to purge extremism, but rather to rigmarole their way into controlling a nice oil country, which they managed to quasi-do, but then realised that the detriments weighed more than the benefits. In the Beslan siege, and Chechen wars Russia sort of wanted to do this, but realised that the detriments would VASTLY outweigh the benefits (5-10% of Russia is Muslim) and immediately put it out.

Also, see my comment about Xinjiang and Xizang. US very likely does the same thing in their puny mountains.

The Chinese aren't 20 years ahead jackass, we'd know. The CIA is the best in the business.


Ah, good times, the 1970s were. I have no idea who was president of the US, but Brezhenev was good. But seriously, my comment about the HI and the CIA at the same power was an exageration, I thought it was obvious. More realistically, US competes with the NIO. Don't say the CIA is best, though, that's an exaggeration. I'm not anti-American, I'm just saying the choices it's picking are pretty dumb and it is behind now. What's to stop me from calling you pro-American? The MSS is unbeatable. China is the best at foreign foreign espionage/surveillance and antiespionage/antisurveillance. As I see it, if China went into non-atomic war with US, it would be a stalemate, with both coasts getting severely damaged. If it was an atomic war, 8000>1000 and US would crush China, but also be pretty hurt itself and occupying such a country would lead to insurgency, no doubt. Perhaps succesful insurgency. Look at the ROC, in 1947, a couple of communists had an idea, and in 4 years, there was no ROC. I do appreciate that you at least try to have a little realism, other than the US of skourby.

European Russia is bigger than 5% of Russia's land. Also, Russia has way more Cold War defences against this than US does. There's many Cold War bunkers, perhaps 1/100 people. Especially in European Russia. Mainland US has a higher population density than European Russia.

Going back to China, China doesn't have "damned" ships, blessed would be the word :). Also, I don't know what this would be called in any language, I'm not sure; I guess it would be a shed without a floor connecting to an ocean or river? Anyhow, that's where China would construct and store it's fighter ships if it was smart (and it is). Also, Kruschev was not really all for nuclear weapons that were controlled by some other country with a drastically different culture (and possibly ideology). Soviet Union didn't just give the blueprints to China, it maybe gave some Kazakh uranium in a show of good faith. Minimal involvement. Would have China been stinted if Soviet Union didn't help? Maybe by a year or two.

à Lucid Dreamer: Irrelevant, but perhaps true. I'm not going to say much, just that none of the Abrahamic religions have been too peaceful except the purest Abrahamic religion itself, Bahaï (perhaps because of the low number of adherents). But to your second comment about stability, that is true.

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French Shootings: 1/11/2015 05:22:53


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à skourby: I'll admit China is a dead giant whose toenails are still growing at a frighteningly rapid rate, if you admit that the US has been torn apart and eaten by vultures. China's economy is growing, I don't know what you're talking about. It's something 10% now, when a year or so ago, it was 7 or 8%. skourby, you're even agreeing with me.

Hey, skourby knock knock China makes all our crap and I mean all of it.

I know. thats Obamas fault.


I don't think it could have been avoided.

à Goatfinger:

Hah, if the water rises high enough, Afghanistan, Iran and Tibet will be the new superpowers.

à Lucid:

Middle East in the late 40s, 50s and 60s, even 70s, I believe. Iran and Iraq had a war in the 80s, then there were external invasions in the 90s and 00s. And the Arabic bedlam of course, to bring chaos to the 10s.
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