gay marriage is a crime in some places, in others it's been decriminalized. People who want to decriminalize the things I mentioned use similar methods as those who want to decriminalize gay marriage. It is a valid comparison, I don't understand your confusion.

Damn it Eklipse. =D Im really sorry, but either you are annoyingly dumb or annoyingly trolling. there has never been doubts about your comparisons. The parity of sexual orientation and sexual abuse, in your explicit case, only depends on randon opinion and is totally wrong. Every half way reasonable human wouldnt consider sexual orientation to be a crime! Thoughts like that are just dumb and racist, in fact you are raising your own standards to be superior judgement.

The parity of sexual orientation and sexual abuse, in your explicit case, only depends on randon opinion and is totally wrong.

I've never said anything about sexual abuse. Unless you're saying incest is always abuse which isn't the case. Stop throwing in things I never said to try and demonize my position.

Every half way reasonable human wouldnt consider sexual orientation to be a crime!

Well, I guess half the world's population (or more) must be clinically insane then. Also, the definition of what is a crime isn't a matter of moral consideration but a matter of law. Laws determine what is a crime and what isn't, and laws can be wrong. This means that things that are morally sound can be crimes while things that are bad can be legal. Law =/= morals.

but either you are annoyingly dumb or annoyingly trolling.

I could say the same to you. Every time we've argued you've managed to avoid my main arguments and go off on some random tangent that I can't make heads or tails of.

I dont talk about pedophilia. even though it fits.

gay marriage is a crime in some places, in others it's been decriminalized

Your premise is: homosexuality is a crime. This is all I dont agree with. It has the disgusting taste of racism...

Your premise is: homosexuality is a crime. This is all I dont agree with. It has the disgusting taste of racism...

Homosexuality is a crime in some countries: That is a FACT. It's not a premise, it's a fact. Whether you agree or not gay marriage is illegal in some parts of the world. You're making a mountain out of a mole-hill.

Secondly, LGBTs are not a race.

God's supposed wrath on Sodom and Gomorra should have eradicated the gays, and the flood, and all the other bullshit. But oh look at that, lgbt still exists, wonder why. Maybe it's a natural thing, and it's just been pushed into the fringe by religion all this time as sin.


Sin is a natural thing to humanity that's why its still here.

God doesn't exist.

Maybe that's why.

Maybe this might not be the right topic on a war game, while it is in the off-topic forum ,this is more of a serious topic then what I think should be discussed.
PS X you said never to assume , who knows what could exist and what couldn't , maybe Santa was shot down over Nazi Germany but escaped back to Finland , but once the Finns allied the Germans he took his factory to America and thats why the American industry was so great. (I'll admit the Santa thing wasn't even related to what X said I just wanted to say something crazy)

There is evidence of homosexuality being both genetic and enviromental (and it probably is both). Research has prooven that siblings, children, families tend to be more likely to be homosexual if another family member is homosexual. However, it has also been shown to be enviromental. An example is when prisoners alledgedly turn gay whilst in prison due to the fact that they are restricted to only the same sex with which they shower with etc... The most likely reason is that everyone is at least a little bit gay but some are just more. So stop trying to say homosexuality is wrong as if someone put a gun to your head, you would turn gay. If the only sex you saw for your whole life was the same, you would turn gay. Perhaps even if religion and society was pro homosexuality and anti heterosexuality, you might end up gay.

Lawlz, What is your point?

People don't just "become" lgbt, they're born that way.

Show evidence, or shut up.

Infact, do yourself a favor and actually read a couple of scientific journals on both sides of the topic. Then give your interpretation based on evidence provided and explain why you've taken the stance you have.

Or just go with your gut feeling and attempt to shove it down everyone's throat, all the while attempting to shame those who don't agree with you. You know, like you claim the opposition is doing.

God doesn't exist.

Maybe that's why.

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mfw I saw this thread :

gay marriage is A-OK in my book. Anyone who says otherwise is a biggot.

God doesn't exist.

Maybe that's why.


Evaluation didn't happen

gay marriage is Z-OK in my book. Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot.

Demonizing homosexuality is a Judeo-Christian invention. In greek antiquity, homosexuality was perfectly normal and broadly accepted within the society. In fact, the ideal of beauty was that of an athletic man, not a woman. Women were considered deformed versions of men.

All the ressentiments you have against homosexuality are the result of a millenia long profound indoctrination and socialization by Judeo-Christian (or Muslim later on) beliefs, not the result of logic.

Logic differs greatly on many subjects. Beliving homosexuality is good/bad is a form of logic Depending on reasoning.

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Logic differs greatly on many subjects. Beliving homosexuality is good/bad is a form of logic.

that has nothing to do with logic

Your idea of logic is diverse from other people's

Your idea of logic is diverse from other people's

People should be more aware of that, I think that the quote speaks the truth.