I really wouldn't mind that much if someone got all of the idiots in the US into a tower and threw a large missile at it. Fortunately no-one here would be in there of course...

And if tasmania got independence then all my aussie friends would cease to be aussie which is bad :)
I was kidding BTW, I live in Adelaide and even in our backward, oldpeople filled dimension we haven't heard tasmania is getting independence

First "you" were not at war with spain. Spain didnt even participate in WW2. "You" earned a lot of money selling weapons to the fascist Franco-regime.

Sought this but I won't deny since I don't know.

"You" were not at war with Belgium and Scotland either. Do you have that from a comic book?
"You" were not at war with Greece either, Greece was occupied by Nazi Germany as well.

We had basis theRe during the war to help them. You misread.

The bases in Germany, Italy and to some extend in Japan resulted through occupation. "You" were certainly not called in there to help.

True. But still stability after a war.


The USA never had any good intentions. This is naive and ridiculous and basically this is the biggest misconception of US foreign policy by US Americans. It was always only serving the interests of the US elites.

Well if US has done nothing good then all the other countries must have done nothing.

"No good deed go's unpunished"

Live in Adelaide eh?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D82YtmIqTNg

meh

I will be the first to admit that the U.S. has made and continues to make many mistakes with foreign policy. It has been controlling of other countries in ways that were in our interest and not in the interest of the people living there (like supporting dictators). I don't think you can conclude everything the U.S. has done has been intentionally evil, however. Certainly the claim cannot be made that what the U.S. has done was any more evil than any other country. Someone mentioned that the U.S. was sitting on its arse during WWII. The reason behind this was we didn't want to get involved in another war started in Europe after WWI. It is likely that U.S. involvement in the war tipped the scales to the Allied side. After WWII, the U.S. found itself in the position of stopping an aggressive Soviet Union (with the help of European allies). The U.S.S.R had horrible human rights and dominated eastern europe for many years. The U.S. organized the Berlin airlift to help Germans in Berlin excape occupation. Would the iron curtain have fallen without help from the U.S.? I'm not sure on that one, but maybe not. It is an undeniable fact that without U.S. intervention, Taiwan would be communist and part of China. South Korea would also be occupied and probably ruled by Kim Jong Ung today. I think the area of the world the U.S. has made its biggest mistakes is in the middle east. Early mistakes and support of dictators erroded trust and stoked anti-U.S. sentiment. Invading Iraq likely gave Iran more power and allowed groups like ISIS to thrive. Anyway, it is certainly a mixed bag.

Your one paragraph is too thick for me to read (or I could be too thick), managed to get through the first sentence.

You're not the first to admit, nor is myhand.

The world needs a super-power. Pick your poison.

Nazi Germany?
Imperial Japan?
America?

Sorry if your ideals don't align with the present power and you have a kernel of sand stuck in you.

Look what happens when the a super-power withdrawals from the Middle East, a new one steps up and starts beheading people causing a mass exodus.

ISIS a superpower? another ridiculous statement

ISIS is an Al-Qaida Splinter group, Al Qaeda was created and funded by the USA. Now the USA supposedly uses Saudi Arabia and Qatar as proxies to continue supporting those groups.
They were used to rid Lybia of Qaddafi and they were used in an attempt to rid Syria of Assad. That was an endeavour that nearly succeeded had not the Hezbollah decided to take part in the Syrian Civil war and back up Assad.

Its ridiculous to assume that ISIS would have any chance of survival without foreign support. True is that they have access to some oil fields, from which they could sell crude oil to low prices and that they looted the central bank in mosul for 429 million $, but there is a hook. You are rich with approx. 2 billion $ when you are some radical guerilla, but if you have to establish a working civil state in the occupied territories, you are not that rich anymore.
Militarily they are far from being a superpower. The middle east has been subject of an arms race for a very long time. Turkey, Israel, Egypt and Iran all compete with being the strongest regional military power, but certainly not ISIS.

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The world would definitely be most grateful

Until something bad happened that some country wasn't strong enough to control, than they'd be mad at us for not doing anything about it. Politics is a game that you can rarely win over everyone with.

The USA never had any good intentions. This is naive and ridiculous and basically this is the biggest misconception of US foreign policy by US Americans. It was always only serving the interests of the US elites.

You're right. Should of let Saddam Hussein stay in power, he was a just ruler. Let Gaddafi have his spot too. Terrorist organizations? They'll figure it out on their own. Only those evil elites would want us to do anything about this.

ISIS is a major threat we need to put down all them Muslim fascist dogs so that life can go on without more people being executed and turned into WW3

Did myhand deny the Spanish American war?

The poll says USA, still if you ask Obama he'll say that USA is standing on the guard of Democracy.American Empire is worse than Soviets were.

All I'm saying is if America fell , Americans would basically turn into Mongols with tanks.......... tanks that go 70 miles a hour and are the most advanced in the world.........

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lol its true but if the chinese ever got the power to take on the U.S it would be Chinese takeout every night for dinner lol

Invading the USA would be ........ a hell in some places Texas : every town is a death trap filled with snipers, IEDs, occasionally some RPGs. it'd be hell out in the open as well in the summer, 100 degrees Fahrenheit accompanied by wolves,coyotes,rattlesnakes, scorpions, rednecks, buzzards.
Four military bases around San Antonio if I remember correctly, that'd make that town a hell.
Austin...... well it's the most liberal place in Texas they might welcome you.

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Should of let Saddam Hussein stay in power, he was a just ruler. Let Gaddafi have his spot too.

The fact is it wasn't only about beheading these governments but destroying all the structures of these countries, bringing chaos without any possibility to rebuild as it was before. As french i'm pretty ashamed my country took part of this. The truth is France, as many other countries, with the cowardice and the complicity of a corrupt elite progressively became an american's vassal state with all the counterparties it implies.

To be honnest, France didn't need USA to do some shit in the past, specially in our old sphere of influence in Africa but now the scale is really higher and the mess spreads up everywhere. The worst thing is that human rights are used to sell the wars. Bombing and killing in the name of human rights is something that is beyond me.

To focus back on the main debate :
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/earth-248-armed-conflicts-ww2-us-started-201-81-killing-30-million-far-arrests-now.html

These are a few facts and statistics about military conflicts after the WW2. USA started 201 out of 248 with casualties up to 30 millions deads. It says something right?

About the topic:

Although there is no doubt that the USA has its fair share in wars and conflicts I don`t think it is the greatest threat. This is for the simple reason that the USA together with its allies is so much more powerfull it can almost always do what it want. Whether they do a good thing or a bad thing doesn`t matter, other countries often can`t intervene or do something about it. This makes them less of a threat. I`m not saying they are doing the right things, nor am I saying that everything they tell us about these topics is right. Their power is to big to be a real threat though.

It is countries like Russia, China or Iran which are far more dangerous. Not because they are commies or because they are muslim (or whatever stupid reasons the governments give) but simply because they threaten the USA and Europe to lose their first position. They are very powerfull and the western countries don`t like it. They`ll try to protect their spot as most powerfull and most important countries.

So therefore I think that there isn`t one country or one side thats the threat. The "eastern" countries will cause the western countries to take action. The will to be better than everybody else, to stay at the top, is more of a threat than one country is. But who is to blame then? Is it the countries at the top, taking actions to protect their spot. Or should you blame the countries that push them to take these actions?

I don`t think it is the greatest threat. This is for the simple reason that the USA together with its allies is so much more powerfull it can almost always do what it want. Whether they do a good thing or a bad thing doesn`t matter, other countries often can`t intervene or do something about it.

dumb female logic?

dumb female logic?

Sexism?

DEATH?