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Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 11:16:32


Lawlz
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How is that funny? You just stated a fact is all, what you said about adam and eve just sounds like propoganda spewed out by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 11:25:27


Eklipse
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Colonel, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Islam was the first of the Abrahamic religions. Hate to break it to you, but Judaism was first (WAAAAAY First) then came Christianity, Islam was last to form.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 15:11:01

Ibrahim Al Hashem
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> you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Islam was the first of the Abrahamic religions. Hate to break it to you, but Judaism was first (WAAAAAY First) then came Christianity, Islam was last to form.


Islam always existed, it was always there. Abraham and the other Prophets were Muslims. Eid was celebrated after Ismail's and Abraham's time and they used to pray but the ways weren't established until Muhammad recieved the Quraan. However, all the prophets prayed and one of the reasons that Prayer was made compulsory was because of 5 different prophets. Like Adam prayed, joseph and other prophets. It also says in the Quraan that Abraham was Muslim and so were the others and their followers as they followed the way of Abraham. It was due to man changing the original scriptures, that other religions developed, and the Quraan is the book that hasn't and will never change. Muhammad was the last prophet sent to clear things up. And do not forget that Muhammad is descnded from the line of Abraham.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 15:19:18

Elroi{IL}
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"Islam was always there. It didn't "show up" at all. Adam and Eve were Muslim.

Jews have no right to Palestinian land. Palestine has always been inhabited by Arabs historically...
...even the Jews that lived in Palestine prior to the conquest of Jerusalem by Arabs from Byzantium mostly converted to Islam. "
Lol your screwed?
Jewish religion was founded by Abraham, who was called a Jew (probably Roman-era name Jew - Judah)
So the Jewish religion of Abraham "original", is the religion of the Jews the only people who still go to that, Judaism was established in 2000 to 1800 ~ BC, Islam is just 600 AD.
Besides, you want to Israel because it is holy to Islam? I thought it was a state of the Jewish religion,
Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Koran, you do not pray towards Jerusalem, Israel, Islam does not have anything sacred.
What can you say? Muhammad built a house in Jerusalem? You want to visit Nazareth, the hometown of Jesus? So what are you talking shit?
Israel legally established, and buying land, quite legitimately, Arab refugees fled the country in setting up or because they were afraid that the rumors that Jews had killed them (which did not happen) and because of that Arab countries said that they were getting into so they enter.
This is the only reason that Palestinian refugees, who left have full citizenship, and a half million Arabs live in Israel, "Jewish" full citizenship.
The Palestinian Authority and Gaza came after a war with Egypt and Jordan, suddenly invented Palestinian people, who are only Arabs are not a nation.
Palestinian Authority autonomy and live under their own prime minister, but we are afraid to give them independence because of lack of credibility of the government of Abu Mazen, Abbas joined Hamas, received a doctorate in which he says that the Jews made their marks Holocaust and wants to free Muslim terrorists in prison
Gaza no Israeli Nhkot day, but because of the great threat of the terrorist organization Hamas, we reserve the border and bring them food and water power fuel.
With you want a free Gaza Palestinian Authority So we want to stop the terror.
Then we'll talk about peace
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 15:56:38

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Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 16:35:37


Жұқтыру
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Yeah, Elroi, crush that ugly disgrace.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 19:27:09


Ox
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The Palestinian Authority and Gaza came after a war with Egypt and Jordan, suddenly invented Palestinian people, who are only Arabs are not a nation.

Palestine was not simply "invented". Palestine have a very long history of living in that region, and so do Israelis. I hate hearing these "Palestine never existed" lies. Palestine did exist, but before Islam. That is why there is not an Islamic holy city, like Mecca in Palestine, because Palestine was invaded by Israel before Islam was invented.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 19:30:54

Elroi{IL}
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Correction, you talk about the Philistines, invading Crete made a journey conquests along the Mediterranean coast, they occupied the Gaza region, lived there, Hflstinim of today are only Arabs not Philistines original, I'm just saying that there is no such thing as a nation Palestinian Arab, only Arab nationality, that There has never been a Palestinian Arab state that they are considered only Arabs, are not a separate nation
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 19:42:27


Ox
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First of all, Philistines are Palestine. Translated through Illyrian, the inhabitants of the Philistines were called Palaestīnī people.

Second of all, the country that occupied the Gaza region WERE Philistines, but the country that made conquests to Crete, and the Mediterranean was Phoenicia, not Philistines.

EDIT: Actually I found out that the Philistines did actually occupy Cyprus, Crete, and much of the Aegean sea. Nevermind what I said...

Edited 4/14/2015 20:45:53
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 19:47:50

Elroi{IL}
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Philistines appears in the Hebrew language, so they called residents of the Gaza Strip, according to the history of the invasion of Gaza by the nations of the sea, they invaded and occupied the Gaza Strip and settled there, they also destroyed the Hittite empire, invaded Cyprus and fought against Egypt, 1400-1500 ~ BC
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 21:05:49


Ox
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What I have been trying to get across here, is that there is a Palestinian identity, Palestine does exist, and it is not just a bunch of Arabs who only claim to be a unified nation. Palestine does deserve to exist, and so does Israel, equally.

I was also just trying to inform people that there is a Palestinian and Israeli nation in history, and neither country is completely artificial.

The Palestinian state in history (Philistia) were Ancient Greek, but migrated to the Levant, and gradually become Arabic, and Canaanite.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/14/2015 22:02:14


OnlyThePie
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I find it sad that these people refuse to look at history and just assume their Holy Book is the most right. It's like people who believe in creationism. It makes no sense.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 00:49:57


Tyrion Lannister
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actually, it does, in a philosophical way.

Also, evolution, scientifically, is not proven.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 16:50:18


Ox
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Evolution is not proven, but it is a million times more likely than any fictitious fairy tale, many call Holy Books.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 17:13:08


Tyrion Lannister
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xD

research the odds of evolution.

then research the odds of fairy tales being real.

you will be disappointed.

Edited 4/15/2015 17:13:13
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 17:18:17


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Palestinians are Arabised Canaanites, and Jews are a split-off from Canaanites who migrated to live in Egypt.
They are more entitled to live in Egypt than they are in Palestine actually, as they have a much greater historical tie to there than they do to Jerusalem or Palestine. Palestinians are mostly Canaanites who were Arabised. They have cultural and genetic differences from the "real" Arabs, most of whom were descended from Qahtan, not from Abraham. Some Palestinians are actual immigrant Arabs from the peninsular, but they are generally mixed in with the Palestinians.
If you lived with Arabs, you would notice physical differences between say the Arabs of the Peninsular all the way up to Southern Syria, Jordan and Iraq, and the Arabs of the land to the north of them.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 17:27:17


Ox
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... Colonel.

This is the smartest thing I have ever heard you say.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 17:51:33

Elroi{IL}
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Palestinians of today are mostly Arabs, do you really think they see themselves Canaanite? They touch the days of the Islamic caliphates,And Canaanites mostly extinct, perhaps only Lebanese descendants have Canaanites, and this also a minority
Palestinian residents of the Levant are mainly descendants of Arabs and perhaps Phoenician minority in Lebanon, or in Syria Aramaic, besides mostly Arab
There is a bigger chance that their ancestors were Jews than Canaanite

Edited 4/15/2015 17:52:24
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 17:57:31


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Jews and Palestinians are both descended from Abraham. Palestinians are the resident Canaanites, and the Jews are the ones that fled due to their religion.
Israel has no right to exist: 4/15/2015 18:11:06


Ox
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There is a bigger chance that their ancestors were Jews than Canaanite

Palestinians are both descended from the Canaanites and Israelis.
Palestinians also have a lot of various other Semitic ancestors, not Canaanite, or Israeli. Notably Aramaic and Phoenician.
Today Palestinians have an Arabic culture and language.
70% of modern-day Israeli Jews share a chromosome pool with modern-day Palestinians.
82% of modern-day Palestinian Muslim Arabs share a chromosome pool with modern-day Israelis.
The Palestinians and Jews are not so different as you might think.
The ancient Israelis, after beating the Canaanites in a battle, become quite good friends with the Canaanites, allied with them, and interbred.
Due to their geographic location, the Palestinians absorbed Arabic culture and linguistics.

The Palestinians of today ARE descendants of Canaanites, and Israelis as well.

Edited 4/15/2015 18:15:06
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