everybody died
(also good mystery)

Kain is the first person on Warlight to have solved the mystery.

Keep it up, guys! And don't forget that you can present your theories as many times as you want, whether on here or in PM.

Should I give you all the answer? Or maybe a few hints?

your answers are stupid, you are assumign that the answers you want are the only possible.... there is no one only possible solution

Do you have a theory of your own?

Okay... I don't know this riddle, but i have solved several of this kind already. I'll just collect a bunch of general yes/no questions here and wait for the answers.

My general strategy is just to question the stuff that is given for hidden meanings or side-stories, and asking questions the way that they may lead to side-stories.


-I assume that those 6 students were all human. correct? Is their gender relevant?
-I furthermore assume all those 6 students were completely healthy and unharmed at the time they enteded the abandoned school, correct?
-Is there / are there any kind of animals that are important to the story?
-could this story actually happen in the real world we know, or is anything paranormal going on?
-Is it important that they ar a school's rock-climbing club? would the story work the same way if it was a chess-club?
-there are 6 members of that school's rock-climbing club who went there. has this club any more members that are relevant and did not join them to the trip?
-is it relevant that it is a SCHOOL's rock-climbing club? Does it matter what school they belonged too? could it also be just 6 guys that like climbing together?
-Is it important in which town /country exactly they were, or how far this country/town is located from their home school?
-do they know the abandoned town they find themselves in? has maybe one (or several) of them already been there once?
-Is it important that this is an unofficial trip? Do their parents / teacher know they are on this trip?
-Does anyone of them have a cell-phone with them? Assuming they don't: would it change the story if one of them HAD a cell-phone?
-Did they have all the equipment they need for rock climbing with them? (ropes, carabiner, pickaxe etc?)
-(assuming yes to previous question): Is it important for the story that this equipment is present?
-Did any part of the rock climb equipment lead to the death of the 6th guy?
-Is the season important, or which day of the week it was?
-They were lost in the woods. is that important?
-was it originally a one-day-trip where they get home in the evening, or did they want to sleep somewhere anyways? did they bring along enough food / clothes / water for at least 2 days?
-They entered an abandoned town. Is the reason the town got abandoned relevant?
-Is it important for how long this town has been abandoned?
-Is anything that happened BEFORE they entered the school important?
-Is it important that they are in a school, or could it also be an office or a church or anything?
-So they were looking for rooms to sleep in. Did they have their sleeping bags with them? were they maybe also looking for food, or did they have enough food with them? are they looking for anything special in the rooms other than just a room that provides enough warmth and shelter to sleep in?
-Are the blueprints relevant?
-Are the blueprints accurate?
-Are there rooms that are NOT on the blueprints?
-Was there anything else on the blueprints that might be important?
-you write "in what they believe to be the secretary's office": Is it important that they believe that? Is the room of relevance? was it really the secretary's office? does that matter?
-is it important HOW the keys are labelled? (handwritten, pc-written, with a color system or anything)?
-Are the keys labelled correctly?
-is it important that it is the student on the TOP LEFT that heared the steps and yells of the others? Has this something to do with climbing?
-One of the students yelled to the others that he found a room that would fit their needs. Is that room of relevance? was there something in there that made it better than all the other rooms? was it the room where the dead one was found in?
-Is it important that there are three hallways on each floor, or would the story also work with four hallways (and 8 students)?
-I assume that those 3 hallways on each floor face different directions. Is that true, or are they maybe also paralel? is it possible that there would be a room in-between two hallways, so that it could be accessed from both hallways?
-I assume that all the rooms they enter to see if they are good to sleep in are single rooms without connections to other rooms. correct?
-you write "in almost every room" there is glass... Is there also glass on the floor in the last room the dead one is? it only says that he lies in front of an intact window. what about the other windows in that room?
-Are there other rooms with intact windows?
-is it important HOW the windows broke, or can we just assume that they got broken by random vandals or simply the old age?
-all the rooms have broken glass INSIDE the room. this usually means that the window has been broken from the outside. Is that important? Is there glass on the outside of the school, too?
-Is there maybe also glass (in one or several rooms) that is NOT from the broken windows?
-is it important that the dead guy lies in a SMALL puddle of blood?
-they are looking out of the window in the end. are those windows all intact? Is the room with the dead guy on the first floor or the second? Was anything outside the windows enlighted, or did they see anything in particular of relevance outside?
-Are there any other objects in the room with the dead guy which are relevant?
-Has the room with the dead guy any kind of "special feature" that the other rooms don't have?
-has the dead guy any kind of "back story" (like, has he experienced something important in his past or something) that the other 5 don't have?
-As they are in front of the room with the dead guy inside, they are 5 people. Is it important that TWO guys went getting the master key? could it have been three or four? is it important which 2 students went to get the master-key? is it important that THREE students were "guarding" the closed room?
-Is it important that, in order to find the sixth, they begin on the BOTTOM RIGHT room? Is it important where the room with the dead guy is located? has anything of importance changed in some of the other rooms from the first time they went in (as they were all individually looking through the rooms) and the second time? (as they were looking for the sixth?)
-They are only looking for rooms on two floors. has the school more floors? what about a basement?
-Is there any Character in the story that is relevant and not mentioned yet?

Edit: i got even more questions :-D i'll just edit them in
-in the story it says that the dead guy lay dead in front of an intact window. but he was INSIDE the building, right?
-was the (intact) window open?

Edited 4/27/2015 15:44:32

I'm pretty sure the kid who died was outside (even though it was never stated).

(I've never seen this puzzle before, but seems like where he'd be if they're all looking out the window past their friend)

Edited 4/27/2015 16:44:56

The dead student is on the inside, my apologies. It does seem a little vague about that. I'll edit that in right away.

The rest of your questions will be answered shortly. No time atm.

Oh lord, those questions. Alright, I will answer them right now.

> All are human. Gender does not matter.
> All students were in good condition.
> Animals are the reason they wanted to sleep inside a building. No other significance.
> Nothing paranormal or supernatural occurs.
> ROCK CLIMBING CLUB IS A VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL!
> There are no other club members.
> Global location shouldn't matter. They are, however, far enough into the wilderness that they felt the need to take shelter for the night.
> They are all lost and are to be assumed to have never seen this town before.
> It is not unimportant that this is an unofficial trip. For one thing, it means that no unmentioned supervisor is present. It also alludes to a very safe assumption.
> Did I not say anything about cell phones!? They didn't take them because they wanted to have a true "nature day."
> They were all well equipped for rock climbing, which is why the riddle is about this club.
> As for how he was killed, you tell me.
> Them being in the woods was supposed to emphasise that they were truly lost. No true importance to the woods.
> They wanted to take an all-day trip. Lack of food, clothing, or water is not a factor.
> The reason the town was abandoned is irrelevant.
> The town has been abandoned long enough to have no internet service, if a student were to bring a cell phone (but they didn't).
> Nobody (apparently) exited the building after they went in, so I guess you can say they went to the bathroom? Not important.
> The fact that it's a school just helps to justify their being so many hallways.
> They do not have sleeping bags. Aside from warmth, they didn't want any broken glass on the floor. Only rooms with an intact window could suffice.
> The blueprints are accurate. No other relevance than to explain to readers the structural situation.
> About the secretary's office, they just put 2 and 2 together. The importance of that room is that one can not get to it without going through the commons area.
> The keys are accurately labeled, but the labels can be switched. I left this out purposefully so people could ask about it. Ultimately though, the fact that they can be switched is just a road to a dead end. And so I don't confuse you with this, no labels are switched.
> The scene with the guy in the top left is to show that it is easy to hear someone in the commons. That scene has nothing to do with climbing. Also, The dead guy was found in the room in the bottom right hallway. I didn't outright say that he was assigned that hallway, but with five out of six people, any group can tell which hallway he should be in.
> This story could work with more or less students to my knowledge.
> The hallways would, in real life, probably face different directions. But, to avoid complications, assume that they are all parallel to each other. Also, no connecting corridors. What I gave you in the riddle is what you get, in terms of rooms.
> All rooms are single rooms, with one window if they are outer rooms.
> Like I said above, there is only a max of one window. I think my the riddle alludes to that, but then again, I've had to edit it many times already. There is no broken glass in the room because the window is intact. I don't know why there would be any glass in the rooms of the middle hallways, but just go with it.
> The only rooms that can be assumed to have intact windows is the room the top left guy was in (not important) and the room our dead guy is found in.
> The way the windows broke doesn't matter.
> The small puddle of blood is a detail to pay attention to. Important, but it's sort of just an assurance that you are really on the right track.
> They are all looking out the intact window. At this point, the sun would be out of view, but one could still see fine. They were looking out the window simply to direct their attention away from the dead guy. They saw an abandoned, undisturbed lawn.
> The only item that is of possible relevance is his key.
> The only detail of the room you should pay attention to is the intact window.
> No backstory is needed. You simply need to find his killer.
> The only reason that two people went for the master key is because I thought to myself, "Gee, if I were in this situation, I sure wouldn't want to be on my own anymore." So, trying to make it realistic, I had two people go.
> The three "guarding" are just waiting for the master key, maybe trying to break down the door? It doesn't matter.
> They narrowed down which hallway was the victim's when they go in search of him. Since each were assigned one hallway, and five of them are present, they know which hallway to look in.
> No changes occurred in any rooms.
> Just two floors in this school.
> Only six people are in the story, and only these six are involved, for the answer I have, at least. I don't think there is any way a seventh person could kill the victim and not get caught or leave clues behind.
> The intact window was closed, but there is a chance that it is not locked, or that the lock broke.

I wish you good luck.

Edited 4/27/2015 20:28:16

Are you saying he broke the lock to the window or the door?

Sorry I took so long to respond, Communist Duke. I haven't checked in a while.

That could possibly work, but there are a couple of minor flaws.

...in which student #6 just came in...

I would be able to hear, and then see, somebody breaking the lock on a window. Locks are usually on the inside, anyway, so the culprit would be able to break the lock without being inside or breaking the window, which would make noise.

Also, I believe I said that the window in the victim's room was able to be opened in a comment on page two, but you may not have read all those comments (I don't blame you).

Your theory may work if the culprit got into the victim's room a few minutes before the victim actually got there, but there is the issue of being able to hide until the time to strike. It is an abandoned school, after all; the furniture shouldn't be there. In your defense, the victim would be trusting of his murderer, they are friends in this riddle. It doesn't explain the small blood splotches leading up to his body, though, and if the victim were attacked in the same spot he fell down and died at, then the small pool of blood would be a little bigger.

Your theory almost works, and it may actually be a possible answer, but try to think harder. If I overlooked something, or if you think I have something wrong, just say so.

Could you just reveal the answer? I want it to be something hilarious like "the student killed himself".

Mongols and their sense of humor, tsh