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i dont think there has ever been a black Astronaut before correct me if i am wrong.

@knyte
ok,
just why your rude? Having a bad day?

Epicular, you are perfectly spot-on when it comes to taxing the rich. They can afford it. They can afford it, very much. Oh no! Instead of making 100 million dollars this year's I only made 60 million!!! AAAAHHHHH!
And Donald Trump. He is an incompetent idiot.

i dont think there has ever been a black Astronaut before correct me if i am wrong.

Your not being sure is a good thing actually!

In my opinion it makes perfect sense for people to remember "the first" of big achievements. For instance, if you ask me "Who was the first person to fly?" I know the answer by heart (well..., I know it was the Wright brothers, no clue whether Orville or Wilbur was the very first). Same with first person in space, first person to orbit, first person to step on the moon. And, once it happens, I'll definitely remember the name of whoever sets foot on Mars first.

Those are the real "firsts". But for some reason, we've made a habit of also remembering "the first women to ..." and in some cases even "the first black to ...". The intention behind it might be good (white males are ridiculously over-represented otherwise), but it causes this stupid, subconscious notion of "okay, now that a man has done it, let's see if a woman can do it too".

If I were to ask "Who was the first president with size 15 shoes?" everybody is going to look at me like I'm stupid and why on Earth would anybody ask such a ridiculous question... and it is entirely possible the question cannot be answered as the information (especially for the really old presidents) might have been lost to history. Yet asking "Who was the first black president of the USA?" will get me instant (and flawless) answers no matter whom I ask. Same thing with "Has there ever been a female president of the USA?"... And I'm not just talking about right now; let's be honest, a hundred years from now, that'll still work the exact same way.

The sign we've finally beaten racism (and, for that matter, sexism) is not when there is a black president, it's when there is a black president and during the entire campaign it hasn't been mentioned once, because nobody is consciously aware of it.

Oh, and for all the narrow-minded people out there:
"We choose to have a female, black, lesbian president! ... We choose to elect her in this century and abolish prejudice, not because she's a woman, but because she's the better candidate; because an end to prejudice will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone even further, and one we intend to win."

(Also, with a lesbian president... what do we call her wife; "Second Lady" sounds pretty darn lame!?)

Yaaay, Andrew gets it!

In my opinion it makes perfect sense for people to remember "the first" of big achievements. For instance, if you ask me "Who was the first person to fly?" I know the answer by heart (well..., I know it was the Wright brothers, no clue whether Orville or Wilbur was the very first). Same with first person in space, first person to orbit, first person to step on the moon. And, once it happens, I'll definitely remember the name of whoever sets foot on Mars first.

Common misconception - first person to fly in what we now would call an aeroplane: 1853, George Cayley makes the first aeroplane and rides in it. 1856 - Jean Bris makes a powered (literally horsepower) aeroplane. 1895- Otto Lilienthal flies a heavier-than-air aircraft.

I understand that you are upset by this, but shutting down warlight for a minority of trolls and dicks is not the solution. I'm white and I don't hate on blacks. Don't say you're black, and people will assume youre white. That's how the internet works. Its not the ideal solution, but it's the one you'll have to deal with.

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agreed.

remember that south park episode where there was an arguement cause the town flag was 4 white people hanging a black person (which is racist), but the kids didnt think anything of it, cause they thought of whites and blacks as the same?

er... I am a troll... and have been posting black related memes the entire thread. Although I do agree that words like that are ok in old books.

I think this thread has gone on for too long... let me get this damn straight:

I am not racist; I am of mixed white Anglo-Saxon/Scot/Celt/Irish and black afro-Caribbean (mixed native Arawak Indian and African) even though the majority of my ancestry is white Anglo-Saxon and Scot and therefore it is impossible to tell by looking at me that I am part black.

The truth of the matter is that black people in every single white-dominated country of the world are discriminated against due to their behaviours, habits and culture-related practices. White people find it repulsive if not disturbing even if they do not accept it openly.

Credit to the minority black people who do not exhibit uniquely black behaviours which white people might find daunting. They do not act in a way which is aggressive or harsh and do not burst out laughing randomly for absolutely no apparent reason and refuse to share the joke with you. They are sensitive to other people's ways and norms. They are the ones that can actually achieve and get somewhere in life.

It is wrong to discriminate against someone specifically because of their skin colour, but I think everyone knows that skin colour is not usually the reason nowadays, but the person that comes with the skin colour. Black people were only freed from slavery a couple of decades ago in America. Even the ones that were not slaves were treated like slaves.

In order for black people to want to be treated equally, they need to stop being insensitive to other people. Naturally, white people that haven't had much contact with black people in the past might not feel comfortable employing one, and that's understandable if the person's concern is behavioural and not purely because they don't like the pigmentation level of a person's skin.

Black people also need to stop having a mentality which separates them from other people. Quotas are not the answer, because if you introduce quotas, employers might have to take on a skill-less gang-banging black dude who smokes marijuana in his office and brings girls into work with him as opposed to a hard-working Asian dude who wears glasses, speaks formal English (if with an Indian accent) and actually attracts customers and makes them feel at home. Character has every part to play.

So stop with this equality stupidness. If you want to be equal and be treated equally, start acting like an equal. You are not a slave, you were never a slave, and you never will be a slave.

Now piss off back to the game and stop this pointless discussion with an obvious troll.
If you want to be treated like an equal anyway, come to the nanny-state of the UK.

olonel, please shut up, you nl make it worth every time you try to fix things

Black people were only freed from slavery a couple of decades ago in America.

lmao where've you been?