more fake science.
I notice that you don't quote any modern scientists,
or studies, or papers, because it's just not so.

In fact, both skull size and brain size as having a direct relationship with intelligence or smarts, or anything like that has been disproven in modern, scientific studies of the animal kingdom.

So please shut up.

Edited 5/9/2015 04:00:44

I believe that he is sincere; what he says is not total nonsense, and he seems well versed in what I believe to be the lingo of critical theory (whatever that is). I still don't understand 90% of what he said.

The more jargon you use - the more trollish you sound.

Honestly, the best solution for non-racist players who are concerned about this trend is just to collectively blacklist these players. We could also just start collaborating to maintain lists of these players (including, of course, evidence of their behavior- this shouldn't turn into a witch hunt) and collectively blacklisting them from our games. I think they have a right to speech- or at least that it's up to Fizzer, not us, to determine whether WarLight should become a platform for Stormfront propaganda- but what's within our rights as players is to vote against them, in a way, as private WarLight players, the same way we blacklist known trolls.

If anyone's interested in this open blacklist, feel free to PM me and I can set one up with invites. I've already got a few people on there. Or if there's a better solution someone can think of, I hope you mention it later in this thread.

Edit: As for the dude talking about skull shapes, I'm not personally offended, since my IQ (not that I care about it; I just had to have it measured to get into one of those silly gifted programs in school) is a rather high percentile and, no matter the size of my skull, I'm good enough to be an engineering student at the best program in my field on the fucking planet. Don't worry about offending me- I couldn't care less about your comments beyond their appalling inaccuracy. If you'd like to do some more research before citing junk science as "fact", feel free to hit me up and I can link you to good research that isn't sketchy websites and actually got fucking published.

Edited 5/8/2015 07:14:46

It would make me really happy if you guys all argued in shorter texts of writing then i wouldn't have to waste 10 minutes of my life reading it all.

Do you really think that the size of your skull, impacts? All your life you learn and you might come to - 10% of the brain's memory, this is nonsense You just have to develop a mindset for success in things,

"Elroi -" The only solution is an end to warlight. All white players must give up their "ttempts to control and dominate. The extensions of colonialism promoted by warlight are not neutral. Warlight as a website must end." Lol Your inclusion sounds really not a racist (sarcastic
Most of the players here are from Europe and the United States, the majority are white, if players respond racism, just report instead crying in the Forum ... "

"Wow. You are really a white supremacist. Your failure to care about or desire to address issues of racial equality. I think I have stated my position clearly throughout the rest of this post. Hopefully you realize the importance of ending civil society no in order to address anti blackness. "

 Hhhhhhhh It's bad or good?
You do not get it? You have to help yourself to what people have to help you? Come they do not help you does not mean they are racist, there is no reason to help to someone, who does not help himself, I told you just report

Edited 5/8/2015 08:21:50

Besides, most people have no desire to help without interest, so that they do not help you  because they do not want to spend money, not about race, people are selfish or stingy,
This the world what to do..

I don't know about black or racist or wtf is trolling? but I do know that you are FULL OF SHIT... man get a friggin life or a woman ..whatever but please stop the droning on and on and on ...callate tu pinche sico una vez baboso mamon

Elroi, the 10% thing is also a myth. If we only used 10% of our brains, we wouldn't actually be functioning right now. Generally, Internet pictures and Hollywood movies like "Lucy" aren't good sources of scientific content. I used to believe a lot of weird shit until I realized I was just getting played by people on sites like FunnyJunk whoring themselves for Internet points. Middle school was an interesting time.

Also, I don't see what comments about other comments being too long or this discussion being worthless add or why they're being made to begin with. If you don't see a point to this, don't participate.

Edited 5/8/2015 08:43:02

Do you really believe that you can finish the option memory in the brain? Do you think that the size makes it slow?

Elroi, I have absolutely no idea what you are asking in that last question. However, not being a cognitive scientist, psychologist, or neuroscientist (Computer Engineering > all other majors), this is all I have to offer:

Wiki article because the myth is so widely perpetuated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

University of Washington's Neuroscience department on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

Scientific American: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=people-only-use-10-percent-of-brain

Edited 5/8/2015 08:45:49

I ask, whether a person can finish all potential memory option in the brain? to end the option to remembering things?

And for Captain Phrenology:

As always, I like starting with Wiki articles just because they give good general overviews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology

Wiki on scientific racism is also worth reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

Another fact to consider:

27% of variation in skin color ("race") occurs as a result of a single nucleotide difference. Source is at http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1003912. While differences in skin color obviously exist between (and within) populations, the idea that these differences correspond to differences in other mental or physical characteristics (i.e., that humans can be classified into discrete "races" that are intrinsically different or different subspecies of humans, and that these races can be identified based on skin color) is only a few centuries old

Give me a few minutes to dig up a few journal links and such. This isn't my area of research, of course, so I'll need a bit of time.

Edit 1: Still digging up journal links (I lied. I'm actually working on a personal project and doing this on the side when I want to relax, so I just dug up some general links for now.) but here's some more interesting stuff:

Stanford neurosci on the issue of brain size vs. intelligence: https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter

(TL;DR: it's complicated, studies have mixed evidence, but there are extremely clear counterexamples like Einstein, who had an average-sized brain)

Scientific American: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-brain-size-matter/
(TL;DR: evidence in favor is sketchy, but it looks like people are still obsessed with it)

Smithsonian: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-brain-size-doesnt-correlate-with-intelligence-180947627/?no-ist

Edited 5/8/2015 09:02:24

The brain isn't used for memory alone. Memory, if I remember correctly, is stored in neural pathways and it's very different from the way we store memory in computers because you basically replay the pathway every time you remember something- i.e., you actually revise your memory every time you remember something. That's one of the big reasons why memory (especially in the form of witness testimony) is extremely unreliable.

As far as whether someone could potentially use up all of their "memory storage" within an average lifespan, I can't comment on it since I'm not actually a neuroscientist. I'd reason that this is theoretically possible, but I see where you're coming from in your argument against phrenology- given that we revise memory and don't store most events in memory, the likelihood of us actually reaching a memory cap could potentially be very low (again, I don't know whether it actually is, although perhaps it could be an issue because we're obviously very selective about how we store memory) and space limitations won't matter.

However, the clearer issue is that brain size has literally nothing to do with intelligence, at least in a decipherable way. We used to look at brain size as a way of distinguishing human species from others- first we started looking at raw brain size because of the simplicity. But reasoning along those lines, elephants have larger brains than us but (as far as we can observe) aren't actually smarter. So we shifted to brain size relative to body size, but that also led to some observably false conclusions.

Brain size is complex and not well-understood and to indicate that intelligence is a function of brain size disregards decades- if not centuries- of scientific observations.

Maybe, people recreate the memory many times as they want to think, they do not remember accurately and invent things, and in the end they think it's real...
So, if is probably would not be limited, based on what the gaps?
Perhaps because they are less scholarly culture?

Edited 5/8/2015 09:03:43

i love when these guys read a couple of books and start reproducing what they read as if they were critial, while not doing any critical analysis of what they are reproducing.

I actually read some of those authors, and I read the entire works of frantz fanon several times. I may guarantee you, you haven't got a clue of what the hell is he talking about.

Not peau noir, masques blancs, which you are using as if it was his entire work (since you know him due to Bhabha's influence, and not due to any attempt to actually trying to read him), doesn't say that, but mostly, in les damnes de la terre he clearly criticizes the black intelectual scum which you are.

@Elroi: I have absolutely no idea, although I'm going to guess that it's because centuries of colonial attitudes aren't easy to reverse in decades, especially when discrimination persists.

There definitely are examples of "scholarly culture" within African societies- look at Nigerians, for example- they're to Africa what the Indians and Chinese are to Asia. And of course, historically, we have things like Timbuktu. African civilization was far from mud huts for millennia as it's classically portrayed by racists.

Also, just to be on the safe side of this conversation, since I don't touch Critical Race Theory (literally all my critical knowledge is Foucault and Zizek, so I'm not well-versed in critical theory by any stretch of the imagination), I'm going to completely avoid any critical arguments and focus on what I can understand as someone who's utterly detached from the humanities and beyond joyous that I won't have to worry about anything beyond the basics of that arena for the entirety of my human life.

Why is a topic started by a troll going on this long? There's a simple solution for all you guys: Report and blacklist. This method WILL successfully put a stop to any players who are truly being racist. This issue shouldn't require the amount of discussion it's had.

Also, this thread in a nutshell:

White people are like the batman of races : no real strengths or weaknesses or special powers, unless you consider not having a weakness a strength (i do).

Black
Strength- Race Card
Weakness- Water

Asian
Strength- Maths
Weakness- The Gonad Department

Latin American
Strength- Revolution
Weakness- Sweatshops

Polish
Strength- GROM special forces, and a military that could go toe -to-toe with Switzerland!
Weakness- Can't into space.