A friendly discussion provide points to your statemants and no need to be offensive :)

I believe at present times America is more successful

I think 90% of warlight would agree that Poland is the best country, Germany is 2nd, followed then by France or USA.....

They both have and have had their strong points

Britain in terms of living
America in terms of strength

Actually if the UK were a US state, it would be the second poorest per capita, in front of fucking Alabama

Britain has over 4x lower murder rate than America. Even America's lowest state by murder rate is higher than Britain and better (lower) infant mortality rates, and some other statistics I'll let British folk handle.

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"A friendly discussion provide points to your statemants and no need to be offensive :)"

It's gonna get offensive pretty damn soon...

If this is about warlight player skill it belongs in general. If it is of economics and commerce then it belongs in off topic...

About this GDP per capita thing, it's brought down by the fact that immigration into the Uk currently stands at 300000, around 90% of whom are in a low skilled job and therefore extremely poor by western standards.

The Uk also has a higher average IQ, lower debt-to-GDP ratios, has a longer life expectancy, lower theft levels, enjoys a better Corruptions Perception Index, has a larger percentage of the population with access to the internet, has lower unemployment, harbours fewer people who suffer from obesity, and performs better in young people's international maths & science courses.

They may have more money, but considering these statistics, what they do with it is beyond me.

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^ We use it to land on the moon.

Also if you want to blame everything on immigration, a thread about the US might not be the best place to do it. If immigrants are a net negative to the country, well, we get far more of them than anyone else and if you can use them as an excuse, we can too.

Not much more than Britain.

America=14.3% immigrants
Britain=12.4% immigrants

Right, but America is also a significantly larger country. Integration problems don't scale in a linear manner with size.

In 1783, the founding fathers were worried that the American experiment with democracy would completely fail simply because it would be impossible to have a republic this large and diverse. And yet the UK is the one barely holding on to one of its three-and-a-half constituent countries while the US has a firm grip on 50 states and external territories- to the point it's newsworthy for 10,000 nuts in a state of 25 million people to support secession.

Let's face it- we're the omnipower. We won the Cold War. Without our support, the UK would've had to retreat its armies and navies to Canada before the Soviets took over most of Europe after beating the Nazis.

The UK's always had this elitist attitude toward us. During WWII, the Manhattan Project was the last one to start between the Nazi nuclear project, the British project, and ours. Initially, the US wasn't even planning to start our own- we wanted to contribute to the British project, but the Brits believed we had nothing to contribute.

Within a year, the British nuclear project's director wrote a message to the rest of the command- join the American project within a year or we will be the ones with nothing to contribute.

America has industry. America has innovation. America has passion and drive. We might not be the best at the outset of competition, but we're the country that catches up and wins. Let us not forget that you used to be our colonizing masters and now you're the ones living under our hegemony, whose governmental elections in 2015 were still affected (fewer Labour votes) by our ex-President's 12-year-old decision to invade Iraq.

We are the cornerstone of global stability, of the neoliberal capitalist order- and, unlike the British, we're here to stay.

God bless America.

There's no frain about power - America is certainly more powerful than Britain.

Living standards.

We are the cornerstone of global stability, of the neoliberal capitalist order- and, unlike the British, we're here to stay.

China is your cornerstone, now. And America is not going to stay (successful) for long. Britain is going to stay longer because they have less enemies.

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America has industry. America has innovation. America has passion and drive. We might not be the best at the outset of competition, but we're the country that catches up and wins. Let us not forget that you used to be our colonizing masters and now you're the ones living under our hegemony, whose governmental elections in 2015 were still affected (fewer Labour votes) by our ex-President's 12-year-old decision to invade Iraq.

Have you considered being American propaganda maker?

China is your cornerstone, now. And America is not going to stay (successful) for long. Britain is going to stay longer because they have less enemies.

China has few close friends (North Korea, Pakistan) and is surrounded on the south, east, and west by a counterbalancing coalition backed by American interests (India, Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, South Korea, the list gets very long). On the north, China faces a dying ex-superpower with its own motives- and the American-backed sinoskeptic russoskeptic democracy of Mongolia. China is isolated, lacking a blue-water navy, and a volatile factor-driven economy.

On the other hand, the United States is an innovation-driven economy that's far less volatile, backed by the greatest concentration of hard and soft power the world has ever seen. I do not see China becoming the omnipower anytime soon- even as they pass us in GDP, they've got three times the population.

China matching the US in GDP simply means that the average Chinese is one third as wealthy/productive as the average American. And even then, right now it's based on PPP adjustments that assume that the average Chinese car is comparable to a Ford or Chevy- which is simply not true.

Hard power- there is no dispute. Soft power- China is just beginning to match favorability in the Global South. Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa are still, however, the strongest believers in America for the most part, and Chinese investment in these regions simply means more consumers for Americans to sell to.

Joseph Nye, the pioneer of soft power studies, has himself noted that China and Russia lack right now anything approximating actual soft power. Meanwhile, American film outdoes Chinese film- see Kung-fu Panda. America's fast food suddenly becomes a status symbol in China. America's exploitative phone manufacturers are being gobbled up by Chinese consumers.

By all meaningful metrics of power- hard and soft- America is winning. America will win.

Have you considered being American propaganda maker?

If that's all you have to say, then I rest my case. I haven't found anything in Europe approximating the innovation capacity or venture capital funding of Silicon Valley, so I think we've got the edge in the tech market for the foreseeable future as well.

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its america.

what a stupid question.

America, Fuck Yeah!
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, Yeah

Ya this is definitly off topic...

"A friendly discussion provide points to your statemants and no need to be offensive :)"

Psh what did i say. Anyone stupid enough to pose such a question on an open forum with a bunch of 12 year olds sitting safety behind computers is just asking for a verbal firestorm. Plus, why the hell is this even on General Forum in the first place? Obviously way off-topic.