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Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:37:25


Benjamin628 
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We humans are very smart. We invent ourselves out of problems, but when we do we invent new ones. Examples:

Agriculture -> Jobs -> Poverty

Logic -> Computers -> AI -> Enslavement of Humanity


The most notable dead end of intellegence is:

Electricity -> Fossil Fuels -> Climate Change


Humanity is going to go extinct and will make way for a new sentient being. Who is to say we are not the first sentience on Earth? Are there other very intellegent beings on Earth currently? Could for example dogs become sentient?

Here is my probably illogical way out of the Climate Change which will create a new problem

Climate Change -> Renewable Resources -> Economic Struggle -> War


Maybe staying dumb and really good at reproducing is the only way to survive. Here is what humanity needs to abolish to end War, but creates no problems that I can think of.

War -> No Government


Solution: Get rid of government. Think about all of the problems throughout recorded history and they are ALL because of government.

Btw, this is a freestyle. I thought of 99% of this while typing it.

Edited 8/10/2015 02:49:42
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:42:32


Thomas 633
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No government -> Damn son. *combine every Resident Evil, Terminator and Bruce Willis movie then add more violence and you got it right*
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:48:26


Benjamin628 
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What? Also the word terminator gave me an idea for an edit. Thanks.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:50:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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First problem: we have to follow a herd of animals everytime they move --> agriculture --> civilization.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:52:57


Darth Darth Binks
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The more we know, the less we know.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:54:32


Genghis 
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Thoughts like this are explored by Enlightenment philosophers.

Thomas Hobbes - "We sacrifice certain freedoms for the safety of the sovereign."

War -> Society. Without war, there is no society because society is built on the principles of war. Without society, there cannot be war. But without society, we could not have sent a man to the moon, tapped into oceanic oil reserves, preserved so many beautiful species and invented a way to travel where we can safely traverse in days what used to be a dangerous voyage of months. I'd gladly have a Hitler for every Bismarck. A stalin for every Catherine. An Obama for every Washington.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:55:00


Richard Sharpe 
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Wow... I weep for the school system in your city. Just so much wrong with this that I don't know where to begin...
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:55:40


Benjamin628 
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I like what you both said, particularly Tupac. That proves that evolution is a cycle. Humans are either going to conquer the universe, or die off and make way to a new sentient species.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:56:45


Benjamin628 
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@Richard suburb* and how about you begin instead of making a smartass comment like usual?
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 02:59:42


Genghis 
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Humans will not conquer the Universe. We'll be lucky to conquer a few lightyears of our galaxy. By the time we find intelligent life, we'll realize how dumb we are and we'll finally know hoe insignificant we are.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:02:14


Richard Sharpe 
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I begin what? Pointing out the obvious flaws?

If progress makes things worse for humanity why is it that population so drastically increases with technology?
600 years ago there were ~400m people
200 years ago there were ~1b people
100 years ago there were ~2b people
Now there are ~7b people

You're right, staying dumb and reproducing is clearly the only way to survive. Just look at the numbers above...

Edited 8/10/2015 03:03:17
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:05:52


Benjamin628 
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Well Richard if you are in a position to insult "my school system" then you would know that populations grow exponentially while our ability to feed ourselves is more linear. More people does not imply better life.

Who has a better life, one of the quadrillion-ish ants or 100 million-ish dogs?

@Genghis We are either alone in the universe and going to die or not alone in the universe and going to spread, but probably not conquer the universe :P

Edited 8/10/2015 03:07:01
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:08:38


Richard Sharpe 
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You go ahead and remove governments. See how much better your life becomes without electricity, clean water or easy access to safe food.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:10:17


Genghis 
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The problem is not food. It's distribution.

Also, Richard has the right idea (but he's a little harsh about it). Plague causes the most deaths, not war or society. And because of society, we can work to cure plagues.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:11:27


Benjamin628 
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You go ahead and keep governments. Have fun in World War 3.

Also those things do not need to be provided by governments. Do you know how traditional economy works? A company gives you electricity, clean water and easy access to safe food in exchange for safety or something.

@Genghis You are correct, but society is also allowing plague to spread by living in dense populations I guess. The whole point of the thread was the original question: Is Intelligence a dead end?

Edited 8/10/2015 03:14:35
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:14:29


Richard Sharpe 
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Traditional economies rely on money. Said money is provided through a central government of some sort. No government, no money and thus no resources. Only what you can generate yourself and then trade/barter for which would be very little. Far less than what you have access to with the current arrangement.
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:15:51


Benjamin628 
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Traditional economies rely on money

Ok
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:21:56


Potatoe
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Richard instead of pointing out flaws out of other peoples arguments (Which you are god at doing that)

Why don't you come up a solution?

It's easy to judge

Edited 8/10/2015 03:22:03
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:24:02


Genghis 
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The more people exposed to a plague, the more people who will now have children better resistant of that plague.

Money is the way to go. It's ludicrous to think that your grains are worth my sword i just made under a barter system. And without government whose to stop that armed person from killing you and keeping their grains?
Thoughts: Intellegence is a dead end (Maybe): 8/10/2015 03:26:30


Benjamin628 
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And without government whose to stop that armed person from killing you and keeping their grains?

Are you serious? An armed person doesn't rob/attack another armed person.

Edited 8/10/2015 03:27:39
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