I hope you also read my previous comments, not only the last one. I was just posting an interesting idea someone told me a few days ago, and which I considered a good point. But I am not defending Catalans not being heard, at least some changes are probably needed.

And well, Centralism has pros and cons. I think Spanish system is good as it is now, all regions have their representation and self-government. Although I think there are many unnecesary regions, including mine. I am proud to be from La Mancha, and from Castile too, just I don't think we need to waste all that money on unnecessary institutions.

But anyway, what I oppose (yes, OPPOSE) is a system like in France, where even regional languages are not supported. Centralism is not necessarily bad, as long as it doesn't interfere in things like that. Moreover, now asking to anyone in France, like Panda or Chronos: What do you have to say about plans for less regions in France, merging previous ones? It is supposedly to save money, but damn... They are just removing the few self-identity regions, like Alsace, I think. Could any of you explain it, and when is it expected to happen?

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Oh and also, the person who said that sometimes there is no such right to choose is not any Castilian Spanish nationalist. It was said by a Catalan journalist, proud to be Catalan, but not wanting independence.

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yes Pablo (btw Im Panda), I am surprised you heard of the territorial reform that is happening currently in France, actually it is a huge reform that could even influence the current maps about France here in Warlight X) just take a look guys:




And well this is one of the worst reforms that is currently ever made by our recent governments (right and left under Sarkozy then Hollande). Because I actually do not get whats the purpose and what will this bring to the French? If anything I would say it will make things worse.
First as you see culturally, the Parisian government openly neglected regional identities (that are already almost dead, so this reform was really unnecessary), neglecting the will of the Bretons to merge the 5 breton department to Nantes which has been removed from Britanny during the 50s I think, the great majority of BRetons are in favor of bringing back the ancient capital of Britanny to Britanny (which is kinda understanble but guess what the Parisians do not get it), they even tried to delete Alsace and merge it with Lorraine, but then huge demonstrations happened in Alsace for keeping this region alone as it has a very particular german identity and culture, and the government finally surrendered, everything they did was made in one night in the French national assembly without consulting the people and any people qualified about these topics, here you can also see the Aquitaine province has also been merged with 2 other regions (Poitou and Limousin) making Aquitaine as big as one quarter of France o.O (srsly wtf), the more logical thing would have been to merge Aquitaine and Midi-Pyrenees to form the old entity of Gascony (historically and culturally it would make sense). The only 'good' thing is hat they finally unified the 2 Normandys into one entity.
And economically, they say this would allow to save money, well man studies have been made it would actually cost more billions to the French, because it means some ancient capital of regions would lose their 'title' of capital and that could affect these cities economically and their attractivity. Gathering and moving prefectures and local administrations, closing some, moving the employees etc, this would cost a lot. Etc, etc the list goes on...
Oh and also there is a huge scandal about this, because some regions were created for political purpose: The Picardy region is traditionally voting for left parties, and they added Nord PAs de Calais to make sure this region will remain leftist... Same thing for Aquitaine or Alsace with Lorraine and Champagne....
You see now the hypocrisy...

and the government finally surrendered

The French gouverment surrendered to Germans , where we have seen that before?

yes and the Belgians did not even fight we know about this Belgian Gentleman ^^
Belgium and France: Dead nations

luxembourg actually did worse ; surrendered on the same day the war was declared.

this is how the Parisians see the other French known as Provinciaux (people living in the provinces outside of Paris)...



Future France perhaps?

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Oh you are an alt! Wtf stop creating them hahaha I know 4 of them until now. I heard it while looking at Wikipedia about European regions, saw all that and thought "Damn". And well you are right the only good one is merging Normandy, all others are nonsense. As well as the colonies below, those ones are probably worse...

But well, the most important thing France should do is recognising the European treaty that protects minor languages... If their declive isn't stopped on time, they will keep disappearing. Just look at Aragonese in Spain, for example.

Nice change ahah Flanders Uber Alles!

I got the new Belgian Flag do you like it?