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An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 02:43:10


[WOLF] The Conservative
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individualism, personal liberty, and true freedom of religion....just some of the reasons libertarianism is a rising party that I firmly support with everything in my power. In fact, the only thing modern libertarians support that I don't is decreasing the military budget. Libertarianism is the modern version of something called classic liberalism. Classic liberalism should not be confused with today's version of liberalism known as modern liberalism. Classic liberalism is the grand father of all free modern western political parties and movement's. The Greeks, Chinese, and a few Jewish sects are often credited with the creation of the philosophy of democracy which is basically classic liberalism. Classic liberalism died out when the American nd British Whig parties died in the 1800s. It was replaced with political movements who all put lesser value on individualism and more value on the entire. The individualism philosophy was then replaced by Communist, Ultra Conservative, and ultra Socialist leaning ideas or directly from them. However, when Individualism came back into play as a major movement in the 1960s...it has been growing ever since in the form of the libertarian party.


Both liberals and conservatives claim to value individualism and personal freedom yet that is simply not true. Conservatives claim to value Individualism and personal freedom yet they denie gay marriages because it's against what they believe. Individualism ( if you don't know ) is a philosophy that basically puts value on being unique and personal freedom is a philosophy that says people should have the freedom to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't physically or in a few cases mentally hurt people and you must respect another person's right to do so. Republicans break a clear part of personal freedom by denieing gays there right to " life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness " which clearly includes marriage. Legalizing marijuana is another issue republicans get wrong. People have the right to consume whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm others. Now we have been fed propaganda from conservatives that drug users are terrible crime committing people when that is simply not true. Science shows that high people commit just as many crimes as regular people. Democrats are just as bad. They claim to support personal freedom yet, they actively try to take away a man's constitutional right to bare arms. Now, of course they say it's simply ' back ground checks " but that's simply not true. We all know that democrats would love to turn America into an EU style system in north America which includes outlawing guns or at least making it extremely hard to own one. This is a clear violation of the constitution. However, even though the constitution clearly supports gun rights, it usually centers more around a militia then private ownership. It's simply a matter of debate but in the end the constitution in my opinion clearly supports gun rights and the NRA is extremely constitutional. Democrats also violate the constitution by openly supporting abortion. Now, abortion would be very lawful and legal in the eyes of personal freedom because technically it is the women's body and she has the right to control it. However, abortion is terminating another human being therefore it is definitely harming another human being. Life begins at conception....a very popular talking point for republicans but they never back that up with scientific proof. Life begins at conception because conception is when the DNA chain forms. The DNA chain formation is the start of life therefore unless you have sex then immediately terminate the DNA chain you don't even know exists are not..must unlawful.


Teaching evolution or Christianity is technically unconstitutional as well because it's the government officially recognizing a belief system. I don't give a crap about your supposed proof for either of these beliefs because it doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong, it matters that not everyone will always agree with you and many religious and non religious dictatorships started when the government officially recognized a belief system. Thus, the founding fathers put a safe guard on this by saying the government will never officially recognise any religion. Since schools are usually run by the state and federal governments, it's completely unlawful to teach any belief system or religion in the class room. Teaching a fair view of all major belief systems when needed such as in science is probably the most constitutional friendly option that or not teaching it at all and allowing kids to be influenced on by the culture.



In the end, most people support individualism and personal freedom only when it affects themselves but when it comes to other people all of a sudden they are ' offended ' and the other person's rights are null and void while there own is still valid.


Im not purely anti conservative or democratic. I just like pointing out the hypocrisy in both parties

Edited 12/28/2015 02:58:46
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 02:47:30


Mister Kl
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Classic Liberalism sounds right to me...
optimistic nihilism with a mix of existentialism, you choose the path. you cant be criticized for what you do, yet you will be criticized b/c people have the option to do so. there is no morality, right/wrong, yet you should strive to be "good".
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 02:51:17


[WOLF] The Conservative
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I never knew you came on forums XD
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 02:53:30


Mister Kl
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i come everywhere
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 03:12:42


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Lol
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 06:01:58


Ξ Nanaimo
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I like Libertarianism
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 06:10:16


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Register for the party :) I'm not old enough myself but God Willing I will someday
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 06:12:00


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The easiest way to some up the libertarian philosophy is " live and let live "
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 07:37:43


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
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Dafuq is this?

I support increasing certain privileges for citizens who fill a criteria, but outright liberalism leads to anarchy.
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 08:43:16


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What the fuck is wrong with Anarchy you fag

sincerly:

An Anarcho-Syndicalist
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 09:03:18


Urfang
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Donald Trump is a libertarian or a retardalien?
:)
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 12:14:53

Luna {TJC}
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It's nice and all that but who builds the roads?
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 12:15:37


SirSalty
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Me I will build the roads !
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 13:01:39


OxTheAutist 
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In fact, the only thing modern libertarians support that I don't is decreasing the military budget.


WHY?
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 13:12:18


Lord Varys
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Bc, Ox, some people just want those big long hard nukes with their giant payloads.
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 13:52:17


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+1 Ox
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 14:32:11


Lord Varys
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Congrats, Benjie, on making a pointless post when your perfectly capable of saying something intelligent.
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 16:36:13


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Jews are too conservative and authoritarian to create democracy.

LOL. 61% of Jews are members of the Democratic Party. Only 31% are Republicans and many of those are centrist or right-of-center eastern establishment Republicans. If you are referring to Jews in Israel this is again a not completely truthful statement. Sure you have far right parties like Shas, Likud, and The Jewish Home. But most people know that the electorate leans left. Also "Conservatism" in the Jewish sense is different than in other contexts. Most Jews support socially liberal policies such as gay marriage, abortion, and the welfare state.


Wolf I am a big supporter of Libertarianism. If I quite the Republican party I'll head to the Libertarians or Constitutionalist Party. What do you think of Ron Paul by the way...arguably the most important Libertarian in the last 2 decades.

Edited 12/28/2015 16:37:43
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 16:41:52


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
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Jews have no real politics... you have two options:

1- Murder the Palestinians outright
2- Torture the Palestinians to death

Edited 12/28/2015 16:42:26
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:40:38


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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No that's just wrong. I'm sorry. That's not true.
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:41:37


Mister Kl
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Colonel, ethnicity doesn't correspond with politics
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:48:07


[WOLF] The Conservative
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Well, I like Ron Paul a lot better then his son. I would vote for him as long as their was a chance he could win
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:53:49


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Wtf is this I'm hearing about anarchy and Not building roads? That is utter Bullshit. Libertarianism is certainly not anarchy by a long shot. Libertarianism supports the person's right to do anything they want as long as it doesn't physically harm the people around them. It's extremely simple but in case your not getting what I mean I suggest looking up about the libertarian philosophy on Wikipedia. In anarchy you do whatever you want no Matter the problems you might cause for other people. Libertarianism and anarchy are completely and totally different. And I said Jewish sects not the main Jewish tribes. Back in the bible and other historical documents show many Jewish and Arab sects elected their leaders with an off hand version of democracy
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:56:25


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Conservative, I want to know your thoughts on British nuke policy. Is it moral / strategically profitable that Britain wastes billions of pounds on gigantic death bombs?
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 18:58:22


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So Scottish, if I call democrats democrats all of a sudden I'm doing a miss service to the world? Lol that is the most stupid argument I have ever heard in politics. And no, you are wrong again because the constitution clearly states the separation of church and state Is vital to the survival of a nation and that includes state and federally funded schools not recognizing any official religion
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 19:06:29


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Well I don't know much about that issue but at face value i can see the benefits and the problems with it. England Is not exactly known for man power and 90 percent of all your food comes from abroad so Britain, unlike America and Vietnam, is not a self reliant nation and couldn't survive long in a nuclear war even if bombs never hit your shores. The bombs pose an environmental threat and an accident on that small island might mean the end of Britain. However, nuclear weapons is the only thing that keeps Britain running with the top dogs that and there military training. So in the end, it's a personal choice. Personally , I think England should follow in the path of Germany and Netherlands when it comes turn getting nukes. Neither Germany or holland has the power to create nuclear weapons however they do have them because America gave them to them. The factories that make nuclear bomb parts are much more dangerous then the bombs themselves

Edited 12/28/2015 19:08:10
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 19:16:30

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As someone who is further left on the political spectrum, I must say that although I don't agree with their policies, I have immense respect for many libertarian politicians. Ron Paul, for example, was one of the better presidential candidates we've had in a long time. I would never have voted for him based on ideological grounds, but he had a sincerity that I have not seen in any major candidate since 2000 (when I started paying attention to politics). This is especially true this year, where the only candidate who seems remotely sincere and consistent in their beliefs is Bernie Sanders (ignore his ideology for a second, the man believes what he says, his beliefs are consistent, and he has a record of standing by his professed beliefs), and I don't think he's quite on Ron Paul's level.

Also, did someone honestly think Donald Trump is anywhere near Libertarianism? He's as far away from being a libertarian as almost any modern American Politician.

Edited 12/28/2015 19:20:01
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 19:27:10


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I agree that Bernie Sanders believes in what he says but so did every other Socialist candidate in American politics. Their was a socialist party candidate who ran for president during Wilson's second term election ( I think ) after he was thrown in prison for openly supporting Marxism, he said something that has become the base of my belief on the relationship between Democrats and Socialists and I also think Bernie Sanders is fulfilling. He said " socialism will never be openly accepted by the American people as long as we run under our own banner. But, under the flag of liberalism we will institute every single aspect of socialism into American politics and society " the man's name was Debbs
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 20:47:39


Hai Guise Wahts Uhp?
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democratic socialism (Scandinavian model) > socialism.
An Argument in Favor Of Libertarianism: 12/28/2015 20:50:02


OxTheAutist 
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England Is not exactly known for man power and 90 percent of all your food comes from abroad so Britain, unlike America and Vietnam, is not a self reliant nation and couldn't survive long in a nuclear war even if bombs never hit your shores.


But an independent Scotland would be almost entirely self reliant. Fish? Check. Beef? Aberdeen Angus, check. Crops? Huge agricultural industry, check. Lamb/other animals? Definitely! The only thing we don't have are really, the foods that the banana republics can supply.

You also talk of a nuclear war. Is this plausible? Surely, nobody would survive long in a nuclear war, regardless of where their food comes from. Also, how does food relate to nukes, and the huge detriment it causes to the economy?

The bombs pose an environmental threat and an accident on that small island might mean the end of Britain.


Which is one of the many reasons why we shouldn't have nukes.

However, nuclear weapons is the only thing that keeps Britain running with the top dogs that and there military training.


An independent Scotland wouldn't want to be "running with the top dogs". Neither should UK, even. Britain needs to realise that she's no longer a world power, and that she should step down and act irrelevant, like she is. Nukes are one of the only things that keep Britain among America, China, India, and co. as a "power", and Britain acts like she wants to be one. Accept your fate, Britain! You're not good anymore!

So in the end, it's a personal choice.


Not really true. There are facts, and conclusions from debates that nuclear bombs are terrible in almost every aspect for Britain.

Personally , I think England should follow in the path of Germany and Netherlands when it comes turn getting nukes.


"Personally I think Britain..." yeah, but I agree.

Neither Germany or holland has the power to create nuclear weapons however they do have them because America gave them to them. The factories that make nuclear bomb parts are much more dangerous then the bombs themselves


*Germany or Netherlands*

Germany would definitely have the money to spend, to get nukes if she wanted to. I'm not even sure if Netherlands or Germany have them at all (could be wrong, but I don't think so...).

In conclusion, there is no logical reason for Britain to have nukes.
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