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Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 02:49:47


Nex
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Since the first one died out, I've resurrected it. (and to be honest, it would've taken an ungodly amount of work to calculate the 'real' value of Legacy's shares after so long.)

Also, I've simplified the dividends. More on that below.






The WL Stock Market is a place where investors can retire rich! ... or lose all of their money. The stocks exist on the RT, 1v1, 2v2 and 3v3 ladder, and a stock's value is its rating. Stock in unranked players are worth $0, and cannot be bought/sold until it rejoins the ladder.

Each investor starts out with $50,000 to play with. Buying and selling costs $10 per transaction: for example, selling five shares to buy five shares will result in a $20 total fee. The fees collected will be set aside in a fund that will try to bail out players who go bankrupt.

Now, dividends!

Shares in the top 10 on the 1v1 ladder, top 5 on 2v2 ladder and top 3 of the 3v3 ladder will each pay 0.01% (one ten thousandth, pay attention to decimals here) of the share's value, per day, in dividends, back to your bank's money supply.

For a simple example:

If I own 1 share of USA BICHES 1V1, tomorrow I will gain = (2229*0.0001) will give me $0.22 per day.





General advice:

A spreadsheet is your best friend. Keep it simple.

The realtime ladder does not pay dividends. This ladder could actually be the most lucrative, and safest, as newcomers are often underrated and if they continue to play games, their stock's value could rise by well over $100, each, overnight. I say this ladder is arguably safest because it takes three days of inactivity to drop out of the ladder, whereas a player on the other ladders could drop out at any time without warning and become unranked within hours. Thus, dividends would make the RT ladder a bit overpowered.

Check in on your progress at least once per day. If you don't, it's easy to get overwhelmed if you need to calculate a ton of dividends etc.

And, finally, invest wisely. Try to use this as a learning experience for real investment, if there are lessons to be found here.

Enjoy. :)

Edited 2/9/2016 04:41:41
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 02:52:35


Bane 
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nerd
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 03:05:23


King C******* V
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SMH
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 03:10:29


Nex
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And all that said.

FK enters the market, naming his business the Forbidden Assets.

Starting funds @ $50,000.

I buy 10 shares of MISTER T 1V1, for $21,820 + $10 fees.

I buy 10 shares of SZE/GNUFF 3V3 $21,250 + $10 fees. A nice utility stock; hasn't budged in months from the top 3, and is probably one of the safest investments off of the RT ladder.

With $6,910 left in my bank, I buy 7 shares of RICOCHET RT for $6,006 + $10 fees.


Forbidden Assets end the day with $424 remaining in the bank, a total worth of $49,970, a change of -0.06%.

Edited 2/9/2016 03:11:07
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:08:43


Genghis 
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Interesting game fk but i prefer letting computers handle the math.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:13:16


kynte
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If you have a basic understanding of IMPORTXML and SPLIT, you could easily set up a spreadsheet to handle all the math except dividends.

vitriol enters the market with Propulsion Investments

Propulsion Investments makes the following investments:

5 shares of 1v1 Ladder ACL Tears (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=2431)
$2167 * 5 + $10 in fees = $10845

3 shares of 1v1 Ladder Math Wolf (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=162)
$1960 * 3 + $10 in fees = $5890

15 shares of 2v2 Ladder Nackickwind and Buns157 (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=10175)
$2155 * 15 + $10 in fees = $32335

Cash invested: $49,070
Cash on hand: $930




Propulsion Investments

Manager: vitriol

Investment Portfolio

Cash on hand: $930

1v1 Ladder
5 shares of ACL Tears (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=2431)

3 shares of Math Wolf (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=162)

2v2 Ladder

15 shares of Nackickwind and Buns157 (https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=10175)

Edited 2/9/2016 04:22:47
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:20:53


Nex
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^ Yep. This game is really just basic spreadsheet knowledge.

My own, for example:

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/17031122af2d6b0a5f8a413e2c47a097.png[/img]

The only equations I really needed was d83=(B83*C83) copied and pasted into d84, etc down the list, =(sum(D83:D86)) to show total funds and =((D87-50000)/50000) to calculate the change in funds since the beginning.

Easy.

Dangit, since when am I not a member on FK????

Just a sec...

Edited 2/9/2016 04:21:44
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:22:43


Legacy 
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is referenced above.

Edited 2/9/2016 04:23:34
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:36:15


kynte
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Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:38:59


kynte
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Btw, your math is off:

If I own 1 share of USA BICHES 1V1, tomorrow I will gain = (2229*0.001) will give me $2.23 per day.


Should be:

If I own 1 share of USA BICHES 1V1, tomorrow I will gain = (2229*0.0001) will give me $0.22 per day.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 04:41:06


Nex
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Ah. I always miss something. Thanks. Edited it for correction. :)

Edited 2/9/2016 04:46:11
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:11:27


[FCC] Aura Guardian
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This was the thing that I wanted someone with more program savvy and time than I to make a program for... problem was, I could not find anyone who has time.

In any case, if anyone wants to invest in some cheap stock... I do play at least one or two games on the rt ladder a day... and sometimes more... xD.

Edited 2/9/2016 05:11:40
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:15:33


Genghis 
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Lots of numbers just hurt my brain.

I'm much more of an art person than a programmer. Unless you're one of those peoplewho consider programing your art, in which case no.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:37:25


Coronel Gavilan
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I like the idea, FK! nice, nice.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:40:33


kynte
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I'm much more of an art person than a programmer. Unless you're one of those peoplewho consider programing your art, in which case no.


What kind of art? Music? You seem like a part-time lyricist.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:49:27


Genghis 
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I do prefer musical art, but literature and visual art are also there.

I am not so shabby with guitar or piano, and i can sing moderately well. Really i just like working on better lyrics and catchier riffing.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:58:46


knyte 
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That's super-cool :D

What kind of genres do you produce?
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 05:58:46


knyte 
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<double post>

Edited 2/9/2016 05:58:57
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 06:06:04


Genghis 
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Well i really like weezer, but i don't want to be some creepy tribute artist or w/e. I do have other influences like ac/dc korn and rem.

I guess I come up with alternative - pop rock - power pop - rock stuff. I think it wouldn't be a stretch to call some of it blues or punk.

I'm still kind of finding my sound, but i always got some buddies on speed dial that play a mean bass or rhythmic, and it's not overly difficult to find somebody who can keep a steady drum beat. So who knows, maybe a few years from now you'll see some obscure artist in an obscure bookstore thar sells obscure music. Or you'll see some new decent-good artist on the scene. Either way, i just like playing guitar and singing along to songs i know.

Little off-topic, but eh I don't care
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 06:11:41

[wolf]japan77
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Wait, genghis doesn't care about going off-topic?

mind==broken returned true
The caner has prevailed
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 07:20:06


Latnox 
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I'd like to see your face, when those guys from ladders respond here "Well, and I don't sell"
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 15:47:56


Nex
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Lol, Latnox. :P


Mister T 1v1 rose in value; Sze 3v3 and Ricochet RT stay flat.

Dividends calculated now; $2.18 gained from 10 shares of Mister T 1v1,

and

$2.12 gained from 10 shares of Sze 3v3.




Forbidden Assets

Mister T 1v1 $21830
Sze/Gnuff 3v3 $21250
Ricochet RT $6006
$ 428.95
Total $49514.95



Daily change:
+0.07%
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 17:00:37

Mike
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What is missing is an excel file which should be uploaded daily with all the stock values at a T time everyday. And stock could be sold and purchased at that value only during 24 hours. So that it's clear. Then the XL file could include graphs of progression of values.

Obviously that owuld require Muli's skills to take the players levels automatically.

Without that, it's difficult to play. Are you going to check everybody's orders at the right price ? Can players be aware of all values at one glance ?
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 17:10:11


Nex
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Hey Mike!

The values themselves are very simple to check. You can go to the ladder pages, https://www.warlight.net/Ladder?Ladder=OneVersusOne, https://www.warlight.net/Ladder?Ladder=TwoVersusTwo, https://www.warlight.net/Ladder?Ladder=ThreeVersusThree and https://www.warlight.net/Ladder?Ladder=RealTime. The player's ratings are stock value here.

I tried to figure out how to make an excel sheet check the player ratings automatically, and even asked Fizzer about it. Fizzer's reply again shows how little he cares about us players.


Fizzer: Unfortunately, ladder ratings are not exposed by WarLight's API. You can read about what's available at https://www.warlight.net/API.

Legacy: Okay. I sincerely don't understand why this is not available. How would you recommend working around this? As said, I want my spreadsheet to be able to update this info.



Either that, or you can just take the forum Stock Market and code it into Warlight so it's all automated! That too, would be lovely.

Fizzer: Every feature we add to WarLight takes time. WarLight is made by just a single person, so features have to have a high desirability before we can devote time to it. In my 7 years of working on WarLight, you are literally the first person that has asked me for it. So it would be kind of silly for me to take time away from features people are asking for to spend time on a feature that nobody had ever asked for, don't you think? (emphasis added)

You should post your idea for a feature to the UserVoice forum. See https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Feedback
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 17:11:24


Nex
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So, until Fizzer formats the ladder ratings in a way that can be retrieved automatically, we're stuck checking our own work. Which isn't all that inconvenient; you just have to pay attention and update your spreadsheet once a day.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 17:46:19


knyte 
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Uh, I'm checking ratings and ranks automatically. You don't need an API for that.

Propulsion Investments gains $4.32 cash on hand from dividends ($1.08 from 5 shares of 1v1 Ladder ACL Tears; $3.23 from 15 shares of 2v2 Ladder Nackickwind and Buns157).

PI cash on hand increases to $974.32
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 18:12:01


Nex
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Could you teach me how, knyte? xD
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 21:03:02


knyte 
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On Excel: something along these lines- http://blogs.msdn.com/b/hovsep/archive/2007/07/11/excel-2007-how-to-connect-to-and-import-data-from-an-xml-web-service.aspx

On gSheets: IMPORTXML with the narrowest XPath query you can construct (check the page source to figure out which tags to query) -> SPLIT to take out the letters (you can really just do a split with the entire lowercase alphabet).
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 21:06:31


Filthy Weeaboo Scum
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I invest all my shekels in Bane, he's consistently let me down but I heard even a penny stock has it's golden days.
Warlight Stock Market 2.0: 2/9/2016 21:10:47


Hitchslap
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I just spent 2 weeks writing excel macros for import/export xml datas, so i might be able to help
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