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Supporting the police is bad: 4/4/2016 21:21:07


Жұқтыру
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shut the **** up he has done nothing bad there r some bad cops out there but most are good do u like fier fighters and paramedics because police officers r just as important


Are you even serious?
Supporting the police is bad: 4/4/2016 22:14:56


GeneralPE
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Give the gang your herione

*English
*country

Fixed it for you
Supporting the police is bad: 4/4/2016 23:48:50


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@Major General Smedley Butler: I'm wondering, what the hell did police do to you. in your mind it seems as if police are dictators trying to put you in a jail cell. How could you not notice that almost every police officer isn't corrupt, they are just trying to carry out the laws this nation's leaders set into place. They protect what america stands for, and to prevent this country from becoming a wasteland of anarchy and chaos. To be honest, I bet the only reason police might not like you and you not liking them is because you've had a bad experience with them, or it is because you're trying to give everyone a weapon to "defend themselves". Its like you want the purge to happen. Who the hell wants the purge to happen (besides my sister (she says its for population control(I feel like you two would get along))).
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 00:12:42


Жұқтыру
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I'm wondering, what the hell did police do to you. in your mind it seems as if police are dictators trying to put you in a jail cell. How could you not notice that almost every police officer isn't corrupt, they are just trying to carry out the laws this nation's leaders set into place. They protect what america stands for, and to prevent this country from becoming a wasteland of anarchy and chaos. To be honest, I bet the only reason police might not like you and you not liking them is because you've had a bad experience with them, or it is because you're trying to give everyone a weapon to "defend themselves". Its like you want the purge to happen. Who the hell wants the purge to happen (besides my sister (she says its for population control(I feel like you two would get along))).


The truth is, American police have few limits on what they can do, and we can only know this and hope that they won't abuse their power. I mean, American police divisions, some have tanks...it's cool, but it's also just bad. Police brutality and corruption is definitely a thing in America and most other countries.

Their powers need to be limited.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 00:18:51


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Who the hell wants the purge to happen (besides my sister (she says its for population control(I feel like you two would get along))).


This.

The purge = bad.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 00:41:53


Major General Smedley Butler
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How could you not notice that almost every police officer isn't corrupt

I have noticed that since all police officers enforce laws contrary to the constitution and do it because they enjoy money, they all are corrupt.

They protect what america stands for

They actively attack what America stands for. They are the epitome of tyranny, and are in direct contrast to what the founding fathers wanted. If Washington was here today, do you think he'd support police doing this tripe? Hah, he'd probably either shoot himself for having birthed this monstrosity or would take it upon himself to defeat it.

I bet the only reason police might not like you and you not liking them is because you've had a bad experience with them, or it is because you're trying to give everyone a weapon to "defend themselves"

I dislike them because they're four fifths the way to thoughtpolice.

Its like you want the purge to happen

The major killings and massacres in the purge come from government hired killers (practically police and soldiers) who go around killing folk because rich supremacism f yeah. And if you've actually been paying attention to what I've been saying, you would have heard about three times that I am not for the abolishment of the police.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:19:44


Carrera075
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Your rebuttal has no supporting effort, you're like a broken record player, repeating the same thing in the hopes that it will get somewhere. Seriously, you literally just said what you said at first, you're not even trying to counter what I said, no explanation, no examples. (BTW Washington had slaves and only believed white land owners should vote) (also in the movie the purge would just backfire, rich people would loose money as their business get burned down. if rich people wanted to be rich, they would try to keep more people alive to buy their stuff). Also, "thought-police"? the police have never suppressed any of my ideas, and I have ideas of street racing (from video games) and fireworks and aliens. also the definition of police is "the civil force of a national or local government, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order." It is their job to prevent crime, and besides, there are a lot of people in the US anyway (3rd most populated country), it makes sense that any number here would be higher then most places around, like Britain or France, just because there are more people here in general.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:24:40


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If Washington was here today, he'd get destroyed by William Wallace in a rap battle.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:25:18


GeneralPE
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At least Washington could beat the English
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:33:05


Major General Smedley Butler
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Your rebuttal is you saying that I'm in favor of abolishing the police(which I am not) and attacking me for it while not getting to my main point of weakening the police because they are too strong and too anti-freedom.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:45:53


Carrera075
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I was just defending myself, isn't that what you said we should do instead of police? Also, how are the police "anti-freedom" in your opinion? Because to me it seems like they are doing their job.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 01:50:02


Major General Smedley Butler
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They regularly violate people's rights to privacy, search people's things without reasonable cause because they thought something was the law when it wasn't and they kill people way too much.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 02:03:04


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Interesting fact: the first police force was founded in 1838, a whole 62 years after US Independence. Police are important and they should be highly-respected members of society. My only issue with them is their blatant disregard for judicial law (although I blame the Judicial System and Government for this and not the police) and their increasing militarization.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 02:11:01


Carrera075
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By law if they believe that you could have illegal property (like drugs or something) then they can get a search warrant and search your place, but they would only do that if they honestly believe that you could have drugs or something, and lots of times they are correct. What if someone was hiding a gun and planned to use it illegally, it makes sense that they should search you so you don't shoot people. And about the "they kill people too much" thing, like I said, statistics are usually exaggerated, that's how home security companies get you to hand over your money, like ADT. also police have to think fast because it could be a risk of life or death, like if they ask someone to stop hiding, and they jump out and shoot them. Police work can be risky, and that's because they have to stop law breakers.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 02:15:17


Major General Smedley Butler
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You're way too trustful of the police. Instead of the person illegally having a gun, what if they have nothing? This happens way too much and results in the death of the person a lot. And police work is not as dangerous as most think, logging is way more dangerous.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 03:54:32

[wolf]japan77
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Instead of the person illegally having a gun, what if they have nothing? This happens way too much and results in the death of the person a lot. And police work is not as dangerous as most think, logging is way more dangerous.
Simple solution: we make the police accountable for their own shots, replace their guns with tasers, and remove guns from the world.
Done!
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 03:58:04


Major General Smedley Butler
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remove guns from the world.

You overestimate the government's power.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 04:23:23

[wolf]japan77
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*points at Japan*
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 04:30:17


Major General Smedley Butler
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There are over 800 million guns in the world , and only about 80 million are registered. Getting rid of them is nearly impossible.
If we're only doing it for America, then there's 360 million guns in America and we don't even register ours. Your plans, if applied to America are just as impossible as applying them to the world.

If you really want to save lives, ban governments. There's only about two hundred to three hundred of those, and most of them are registered.
Supporting the police is bad: 4/5/2016 04:44:58


Жұқтыру
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Simple solution: we make the police accountable for their own shots, replace their guns with tasers, and remove guns from the world.
Done!


Japan77, you seem to be one of the most uninformed folk on the forum, I don't mean this as insult, I mean it as building criticism. Ridding guns and making sure noone is poor may sound great, and it really would be in practice, but it can't be practised. Hell, there's even been agreements to rid nuclear weapons, which needs the participation of 8 or so governments. Imagine getting the participation of 7,200 million folk.

Just read further into this stuff, and try to stray away from confirmation bias.
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