@ TBest, yeah I just posted on here since I am curious if these accounts have some sort of power/authority or link to authority I am unaware of. In regards to not being notified I specifically asked for someone to contact me when I filed my second report on one of the accounts and I was contacted by {moderator} who told me "Player has been given a warning 03.10.16

checked chat after that and i could not see anything that would warrant a new warning or more likely a suspension since player has been given a warning."

this was before being told to "suck a ****, F****T" and some increasingly abusive language. I reported the accounts at first for use of foul language and insulting me and other players as I felt it was disrespectful and directed at people personally, but "{moderator} explained to me that use of words like fuck were not something he considered to be in violation. Which is fine, I'm relatively new here, so I just want to know what the rules are. I am starting to think the wiki is not very accurate in describing what is actually tolerated.

Also in regards to knowing whether or not action has been taken, the fact that the person running the accounts continued to post comments made it clear that the account(s) had not been suspended, using deductive reasoning. I didn't need someone to contact me and tell me this information directly.

Edited 4/21/2016 21:11:19

Re: only using the report system when I think someone is breaking the rules. Yes I read the wiki and I understand that I can't report someone just because I don't like them or the way they play or they ganged up on me or a plethora of other complaints that don't actually qualify for reporting. I reported these accounts for breaking the first three rules as posted at https://www.warlight.net/wiki/Rules (which is a link provided when you click to report someone, so it seems official enough)

1. You shall be respectful to other players at all times.
(Player was not respectful, even after being asked to stop being disrespectful)

2. Racial slurs, personal attacks, excessive profanity, or any other offensive language will not be tolerated.
(Player made multiple personal attacks on myself and other players, including offensive, sexual and political slurs)

3. You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder.
(Player used multiple accounts to gain advantage in a ranked, non-team, "Diplo" game as in OP. Another player discovered multiple instances of this player using the same accounts to do the same thing in other games, also in OP)

I'm pretty sure I used the reporting system appropriately.

Firstly, I would clarify that I agree that your using the report system right. I definitely believe the player broke the rules. (What I tried to get across was that naming a player 'Cheater' on the forum is not the way to "report" someone. Simply reporting them is enough. But that being said, this thread is turned into a good discussion, so that was more of a general note.)

Now, this is slightly awkward

I felt it was disrespectful and directed at people personally, but "[another mod]" explained to me that use of words like fuck were not something he considered to be in violation. Which is fine, I'm relatively new here, so I just want to know what the rules are. I am starting to think the wiki is not very accurate in describing what is actually tolerated.

Because Technically the F-word violates the written rules. But WL not really a place for 13 years old, I believe most people here have no problem with common swear words. To recoup, technically even saying F*** once gives you a warning. But in practice, (and if I am reviewing the report) you need more than one bad word. Through there ARE exceptions, and players have been warned after saying a singel bad word in chat. Personally, I have the general rule of 3 bad words, always ---> warning. Also, generally you will only be "prosecuted" once for each game where you brake the rules. It depends also on whether it comes across as disrespectfull. Generally you have about 3 warnings for 'lesser' offenses before you get the 1st suspension.

TL;DR The wiki is very unclear on what breaks the rules, to allow reports to be reviewed in a context. Through the disadvantage is obvious, a lack of consistency on where the line goes. Also as you alredy know, the player did face consequences for his action in that game.

Edited 4/21/2016 04:18:53

Wait. to be clear are you saying by "Also, generally you will only be "prosecuted" once for each game where you brake the rules." that a player can break all the rules repeatedly in a single game and since it is in the same game that person could just continually break whatever rules they wanted and just be given a warning, since it all just happened in one game? This seems really weird since that means I could cheat, multi-account, abuse other players, continue to abuse other players for weeks and all I get is a "Hey, just so you know, you're not supposed to do that stuff."

then I can keep doing it for weeks more as the game continues? This just doesn't make sense. That's like someone steals from a store, the police come and give them a warning, then they go back in the store and steal over and over and the police say, "Hey, since this is the same store he stole from last time, we are just gonna say we already warned him." Then the guy goes and vandalizes the store and screams at the employees but then when the police are called, they say "Oh is this about the guy we warned earlier about stealing? Sorry, we won't do anything unless he goes to another store and violates civil code there."

That is, if you equate warlight to a society and the warlight rules to that society's civil code and the moderators to police.


Sorry for dropping the F-bomb. I was just told that it isn't bad and I have seen swear words all over though I don't prefer to use them much myself.

ChrisCMU: this is probably why mods don't usually reply to players who submit reports, because then the player can come on the forum to cry their woes and rat them out, like Behr just did and hours later edited out.

Edited 4/21/2016 21:46:29

@ Behr, there is nothing wrong with swearwords. And yes, wl is not as strickt as you might like it to be, but that is up to fizzer. You (usually) will receive several warnings before you get a ban, but if you're toxic enough then you'll be perma banned. The status of other accounts is none of your concern. Also, I recommend that you use the blacklist.


@PS, there's no reason to reply except for special circumstances. A large majority of reports does not lead to anything. Not to mention it is relatively inconvenient to do (it's just a normal mail).

@ ps: I didn't really consider it "ratting the moderator out" to relate the facts of what the moderator did or didn't do/say. I did change the post to edit the name, if it really makes a difference, so the only identifying post is yours, now. People will do what they like and it's not my intention to criticize the moderator, I even said that's fine in regards to the mod's opinion on foul language. I'm just blown away that this player can blatantly break so many rules, continue to do so after being warned, and not get banned.

@ Hennns, yes I used the blacklist so I won't be in future games w. this person, but in the meantime they are spamming my game w/ insults and denigrating comments and just because warlight has a modification that allows me to put a blindfold on doesn't make it okay for them to still be able to post bs like that for everyone who hasn't blacklisted them to see.

Also, I am of the opinion that the status of their accounts is very much my concern if this person continues to trash talk me, continues to cheat others and is allowed to generally behave in direct violation of the standards of conduct. A community is about taking responsibility for each other and calling people out when they cross the boundaries.

Edited 4/21/2016 21:24:56