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buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 05:37:38


Wally Balls 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10968566

13 days. 8 turns.

If he really tries, maybe he can make it until June before he completes another one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m5c3229Hm0
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 05:49:21


Prophet
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jesus christ man, he earned the top spot, get over it
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 05:51:54


Wally Balls 
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you mean he earned the right to stall and camp on the top spot?
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 05:53:24


TBest 
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Buns,

2 days 21 hours
1 minute
1 day 16 hours
1 minute
9 minutes
2 days 5 hours
2 days 17 hours
52 minutes
Average: 1 day 4 hours

BraaK,

2 days 8 hours
10 hours
0 minutes
21 hours
20 minutes
0 minutes
2 days 5 hours
2 days 13 hours

Average: 1 day 1 hour


Not really something to complain about, I mean honestly. That being said, I do believe that the 1 game option should be removed. (To be perfectly clear, Buns is not doing anything wrong and is in his full right to do 1 game at a time. If it was the top spot he cared about the well used 5 games, +stall losses would have been a better approach.)

EDIT: To elaborate, I think the 1 game option should be removed since I think the new people in 10 (or at least top 20) ought to have a decent chance of drawing Buns to a game from time to time. See how Buns last 3 out of 4 opponents have been way down on the ladder, compared to Buns? Through I view this as a fail of the system rather than exploitation by a player.

Edited 4/30/2016 06:12:01
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:09:25


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"you mean he earned the right to stall and camp on the top spot?"

Yes.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:15:32


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It's not just him. It looks like it has become optimal strategy to stall once you get to the top. That needs to be fixed.

1. Buns:

When he restarted the ladder in January, he completed 11 games in 5 days. His last 11 games have taken over two months.

2. Tyrion Lannister:

When he started in February, he completed 11 games in 6 days. His last 11 games have taken over 6 weeks.

3. alhazi

When he started in November, he completed 18 games in 5 days. His last 10 games have taken 2 weeks.

4. Peixoto

When he restarted in October, he completed 13 games in a week. His last 13 games have taken 6 weeks.

5. ZeroBlindDragon

When he started in December, he completed 10 games in a week. His last 10 games have taken almost 3 months.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:17:39


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In tennis, golf, anything, to stay on top you have to keep winning. You don't just get to the top and then play one tournament every 3 years.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:24:35


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What that tells me is none of those guys are confident in their abilities. They don't feel like they deserve their rank, they feel like they got lucky and gamed the system and want to enjoy it for as long as possible, until somebody inevitably beats them and they lose it.

If one of them were truly the best, they wouldn't care about this crap they would just play and keep beating people.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:25:44


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*cough* Buns is keeping up with winning. I mean he has 100 more points then 2nd for a reason.*cough*

Also, let's compare WL to a less physical sport like chess. To be the official #1 there, you need to win a few games every 2nd year or so..... in fact your 3 years is more historical accurate.


+ Buns is playing 2v2 and RT ladder. So clearly he is playing games. +probably a bunch of other games. You don't just get lv 65.

What 1 game at a time tells me, is that Buns is foucusing on somthing else then the ladder. Like real life?

Edited 4/30/2016 06:28:51
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:30:41


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Isn't it better that he's in the ladder playing just 1 game at a time than not at all?
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:34:40


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Your getting so annoying Billy Walsh. You'd be no closer to #1 if Buns was playing faster so why cry about it every day. And also, he is not manipulating the ladder as you previously stated. In fact by playing 1 game at time there is less ability to manipulate one's rank. Do you have some hidden agenda against Buns that explains this barrage of criticism.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:37:57


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By playing fewer games he has fewer chances to lose. That's blatant manipulation. All of them are doing it.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:41:33


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clearly he is playing games


Ya, he's in 21 multi-day games right now. He clearly has the bandwidth to be completing more games. This is a conscious decision. He wont openly admit it but the reason is that he clearly wants to maintain #1 for as long as possible and he thinks the best way is to play as few games as possible, since he is not confident in his ability to keep beating other top players and realizes he is just on a lucky run.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:43:25


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How many games is acceptable to your standard Billy? It's up to you to decide now how fast everyone should play? Take the #1 spot and then you can show us all how it's supposed to be done
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:50:06


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oh my god. just shut up. "he is not confident in beating top players" go beat some top players before talking trash. You're just a troll. i get it in now.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 06:57:27

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please stop offend Buns - Billy just win the next 30 ladder games in the row and u will become the nr. 1 - without any manipulation
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:11:30


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How many games is acceptable to your standard Billy?


They all started out playing a lot of games and slowed way down. It's the slowing down that is the problem.

Every one of them does it. It's not a coincidence. It's not that they just don't feel like it. It is clearly intentional so they can camp on their spot. Look at the arrows and equal signs on the ladder. EVERYWHERE else it's full of arrows, people moving up and down. But top 7 is all equal signs except two guys who traded spots. That's not an accident. Those guys are all stalling and camping, afraid to play and lose their spot.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:14:58


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Your getting so annoying Billy Walsh.


oh my god. just shut up.


You're just a troll.


Wow, he's acting like a child. I guess I must be wrong?
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:17:23


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I've never seen someone be this butthurt about the lack of their own skill...
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:22:44


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You may want to work on your reading comprehension.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:32:49


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First ~15 games are "cannonfodder" which you usually beat without much thinking. usually you get more serious opponents afterwards, slowing down your playing speed (at least, if you want to win)
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:34:16


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"But top 7 is all equal signs except two guys who traded spots. That's not an accident. Those guys are all stalling and camping, afraid to play and lose their spot."

YAAS, I told you all I was true #1 when I got 8th! There is no possible way, anyone can be better than...... TBest
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:41:26


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You completed over 20 games since April 12th. You are clearly doing it wrong.

I suggest you read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Camping-Dummies-Michael-Hodgson/dp/076455221X
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 07:57:18


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I'd say you're the one that is acting childish. You keep crying like a little baby anyway. You can't accept or can't understand the simple realities of the world. When people get to the top they are less keen to take on additional risks or burden that have no benefit. Go figure. Who'd a thunk it.

If the top players were being hindered from getting the # 1 spot, it'd be worth listening to. But your not one of the top players and their speed of play has no effect on your inability to get there. So what's your gripe exactly? Who are you advocating for? You're losing to players much further down the ladder. how will getting more games with players that will beat you 9 out of 10 times help you or anyone else.

If he is stalling games that he is losing in then please show some evidence and call him out for stalling. Still he would be playing by the rules and the legitimate #1. Is he routinely taking 2-3 days per turn? No, it doesn't appear so. But still he would playing within the rules and the legitimate #1. Your only gripe it appears is that he is playing in 1 game at a time. It's totally within his right to do so. Get over it.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:06:40


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No worries, keep going Billy! You'll make it! Maybe one day you will be lucky enough to match with Buns and then you can take him down yourself :)
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:07:04


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If the top players were being hindered from getting the # 1 spot


They are.

your not one of the top players


Incorrect.

their speed of play has no effect on your inability to get there


Incorrect.

You're losing to players much further down the ladder.


Irrelevant.

players that will beat you 9 out of 10 times


They wouldn't.

____


Given all of these incorrect assumptions your conclusion is based on, it's no surprise that conclusion is false.

It's ironic you called me a troll when you're the one in here trolling the shit out of me. How about piss off now, troll?
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:12:22


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Good Morning to thus of you who read this in the morning :D Hope you enjoyed the thread.
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:22:51


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Wow, you're completely delusional. And I'm not trolling you. I just got sick and tired of reading all of your ridiculous posts. I'll follow up on this 30 days from now when you're still not #1 and you realize the speed of play had nothing to do with it. bye until then
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:28:34


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if you were not trolling you would not need to insult me multiple times in each post. you are mad at something, probably your pathetic life, and taking it out on me. i already told you your assumptions are false. i would like to be #1 on the ladder. right now it looks like even top 10 would take a miracle due to everybody camping on their spots and no fluidity in the rankings.

Edited 4/30/2016 08:29:21
buns finally completed a ladder game.: 4/30/2016 08:37:14


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I'm mad at you Billy. I think I've made that perfectly clear. It's like your not even paying attention. jeez
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