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Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 08:43:13


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Well, again we need to ask ourselves if democrats are so different than republicans. But her actual speech is very close to Bush's ones when it comes to position in the political spectrum.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 08:51:32


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But her actual speech is very close to Bush's ones when it comes to position in the political spectrum.


It's not too hard to splice together political speakers and make them sound alike. Remember Nader's "Bush and Gore are the same person" strategy of 2000?

Last time we got duped this way by a leftist demagogue, we got ourselves into the whole Iraq War + the economic mess Sanders is now raving about.

Clinton is a world apart from Trump and the GOP- she's certainly not going to appoint the same justices to the Supreme Court, make the same moves on health care or in foreign policy, carpet-bomb the Middle East/commit war crimes, etc. I mean, we're talking about a candidate who supports debt-free college and a public option in healthcare- who's got wide-ranging support among liberal causes and the strong support of the outgoing liberal president that Sanders keeps trying to appeal to. Both Sanders and Clinton are certified liberals, even by Liz Warren's standard.

Besides, if someone who voted the same way as Sanders 93% of the time isn't liberal enough for you, I fail to see how 7% is enough of a difference to make Sanders super-liberal if Hillary's a complete conservative.

Edited 5/23/2016 08:51:49
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 09:02:10


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Last I checked, she's still got the support of millions of people.

Her support is dwindling below 50%. That's what matters. I'm not saying there are no gullible people who are "Ready for Hillary" and think she's a women's rights advocate.


An interesting thing to follow up with- a series of discredited claims? That's exactly what Hillary's been dealing with for the past three decades-

If your husband rapes lots of women and you silence those women so that the Clinton name doesn't get dirty, then you very well deserve do "deal with it" for the rest of your life. And that claim is not discredited except in the minds of Shills for Hillary, those women who were silenced 30 years ago are still dealing with getting raped and then silenced. I'm sure they would like to forget what Bill did to them but they cannot. They need justice.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 13:55:10


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You think she's not going to commit war crimes in the Middle East? I know I can be a bit out there sometimes but that's a real conspiracy theory.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:15:49


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Note that the Rasmussen Reports has a strong pro-Republican house effect (2.3 R+). The other recent polls seem more correct (Fox 0.4 R+, ABC 0.6 D+, NBC 0.5 D+, CBS 0.7 D+) If you correct for that, you actually get exactly a tie.

After Clinton leading for months, I wouldn't say she's "losing bad". Of course, you are a pretty strong pro-Republican (or pro-Trump), so I'm not expecting you to look at this in an unbiased way.

Besides, polls at this point, with Trump consolidating support from the Republicans, while Clinton has not consolidated support from Democrats (supposedly yet), are not all that informative and have a margin of error of over 5% away.
At this moment, with elections months away, it should be more or less 50/50 if it were generic candidates. Of course, Clinton and Trump aren't all that generic, I'd say.

So, a neutral/outsider (check country: I'm not biased against either because not my circus, not my monkeys) conclusion to this: much ado about nothing for now, wait until after the conventions to get a better view.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:16:25


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Still willing to bet on Hillary becoming the new president. Trump has surprised me in how well he has done; as has Bernie, but I'm still fairly positive another Clinton will take office.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:31:27


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After Clinton leading for months, I wouldn't say she's "losing bad". Of course, you are a pretty strong pro-Republican (or pro-Trump), so I'm not expecting you to look at this in an unbiased way.

The point is that Trump started as an outsider and Clinton as the clear favorite. For a long time, polls showed Hillary beating Trump by 10'ish percentage points. Most pundits said that Trump cannot win with his unfavorability ratings.

It turns out that they were wrong! After being in primary mode for a year, Trump switched to general election mode just a few weeks ago, and he has already caught up to Crooked Hillary, a feat claimed impossible by most so-called "experts".

The more time goes by, the more Hillary's weaknesses get exposed alongside her shady past, and she will lose support. In fact, she already has higher unfavorables than Trump.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:46:30


Жұқтыру
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You are such a Trump fanboy, aren't you?

Vote Trump if you want your freedoms lessened and more folk dead, but to make America great.

Edited 5/23/2016 14:46:50
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:54:00


Lordi
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You're such a Bernie minion, aren't you?

He will Message in a Revolutionary fashion and bring back the Hammer and Sickle. Oh boy, your mouth is getting wet already in anticipation!
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:57:08


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I don't believe Sanders is perfect and have commented several times on his flaws, and I don't get in a zeal whenever anyone else calls him out.

You think that Trump is perfect, and always get in a zeal whenever Trump is called out.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 14:59:54


Lordi
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I don't think Trump is perfect and I've said it many times. But he's good and a lot better than the competition.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 15:47:55


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All these people saying "Trump will not get there; he did better than I thought he would, but he won't this time" - you are IDIOTS! Look at the Scott Adams blog on Trump - just google it. He has called from the start that Trump would do well and be the nominee. He has been spot on. He is calling a Trump landslide in the general. Now, all of you, who have no real knowledge, think you know better than him even after being woefully wrong from the start. I cannot imagine the hubris one would need to have in order to think they would be right after being consistently wrong for months. #TrumpTrain #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2016
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 16:13:54


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Yes, the author of Dilbert wrote a blog on Trump using one factor he thinks is predictive to call a Trump win. Great.

Remember the parable of the fox and the hedgehog? Dude's not even a political commentator or statistically literate (you don't have to look further than his advice books for that), he's not calling the election.

But if you're confident, I'll take you up on a bet. :)

Also, since Trump got the GOP nom, Hillary's led in like 9 of the 12 polls. She ain't exactly on the decline.

Edited 5/23/2016 16:14:59
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 16:21:12


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Dude's not even a political commentator or statistically literate (you don't have to look further than his advice books for that), he's not calling the election

And yet, somehow, he has got everything right, while the pundits have not.

But if you're confident, I'll take you up on a bet. :)

Like what? :)

Also, since Trump got the GOP nom, Hillary's led in like 9 of the 12 polls. She ain't exactly on the decline.

Look at most recent/RCP average.

Edited 5/23/2016 16:21:36
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 17:05:53


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Edited 5/23/2016 17:06:05
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 17:12:33


Жұқтыру
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Trump supporters, justify me this. My five biggest bad points of him.

*Against giving the right to a fair court-and-try before judicial punishment to all.
*For growing military spending.
*For upscaling the war on Mashriq, including footsoldiers.
*Very for torture, in both American gaols and foreign war prisoners.
*For making killing innocent folk as official policy.
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 17:16:23


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#TrumpTrain noe matter wat u say u just h8ing h8ers gonna h8 like taylor sade
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/23/2016 17:19:35


Maggie De Block
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prejudice threads, why?

Edited 5/23/2016 17:20:08
Crooked Hillary is losing bad!: 5/25/2016 13:29:18


Lordi
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