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The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 15:35:42


Duke 
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I agree with pretty much all above analysis by R and BF. Still not ready to suggest actual moves though - just strategizing. I will say that all options shoulg include using the reinforcement card now. It can only help us execute on our plans to have 5 more armies to use now. Imp is 2 turns behind us on cards BTW.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 15:52:06


Ruthless 
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BIG WOOPS -- I forgot to add our 5 starting income /headslap

This is my Final:

Use Reinforcement Card.

Deploy 5 to Nunavut, 1 to Nuuk, 5 to Venezuela, 11 to Brazil. Attack/Transfer from Venezuela 12 armies to Colombia, Attack/transfer 10 armies from Venezuela to Brazil, Attack Northwest Territories with 7, Attack Quebec with 4, Attack Nigeria with 4, Attack Argentina with 6, Attack Panama with 5 from Venezuela, Attack Cuba with 5 from Venezuela.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 17:52:47

Eitz 
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Sorry to keep busting your balls Ruth, but I think you mean something like this:

Deploy 5 to Nunavut, 1 to Nuuk, 5 to COLOMBIA, 11 to Brazil. Attack/transfer Colombia with 12 armies from Venezuela. Attack/transfer Brazil with 10 armies from Venezuela. Attack Northwest Territories with 7 from Nunavut. Attack Quebec with 4 from Nuuk. Attack Nigeria with 4 from Brazil. Attack Argentina with 6 from Brazil. Attack Panama with 5 from COLOMBIA. Attack Cuba with 5 from Venezuela.

Another side note: you're deploying 11 in Brazil but only moving 10 of them (4 to Nigeria & 6 to Argentina). Did you wanna send 5 to Nigeria, 7 to Argentina, or leave the lone soldier as is?

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 17:57:50

Eitz 
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Fred: "It's still possible, but decreasingly likely, that he has been hiding income from us this whole time and secretly already has Indo and South Africa. I really doubt it, but you have to admit it would be pretty sweet if he'd been able to pull it off."

Hahaha, I could totally see Imp doing something like that too! Let's hope that's not the case ;)

I'll give it some more time to see if some more discussion comes out of this but if/when you'd like me to put a vote option up for you, just let me know with a final answer.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 18:04:55

zaeban 
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He is not hiding his income

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 19:07:14


Ruthless 
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Wow i'm seriously brain dead.

The changes are good Eitz and 4 to nigeria but 7 to Argentina. I keep forgetting whats on the board already and putting those into the deployment. Much more difficult to do it in words and when i'm doing it quickly.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/19/2011 20:11:09

Eitz 
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Haha it's all good buddy, it's tough too when we don't have the option of scrolling over the territories to see what the names are. I'll add your option to the vote, altho I think it would be better to send 5 to Nigeria and 6 to Argentina. I may still vote for your idea anyways.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/20/2011 15:16:03


Duke 
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I like R's moves.

I would tweak them a bit though to create a bit more delay, increase the stack size in Brazil for next turn and add an attack on Bolivia (adding to the odds that we have one target in SA next turn when we use the OP and a bigger stack to hit that target with).

SUGGESTED TURN 1 (conservative Brazil stacking for OP attack next turn - stronger attacks into CA this turn):

Deploy 5 to Nunavut, 1 to Nuuk, 5 to Columbia, 11 to Brazil. Attack/transfer to Colombia with 6 armies from Venezuela. Attack/transfer Brazil with 16 armies from Venezuela. Attack Northwest Territories with 7 from Nunavut. Attack Quebec with 4 from Nuuk. Transfer only 1 from Brazil to Columbia. Attack Nigeria with 4 from Brazil. Attack Panama with 5 from Columbia. Attack Cuba with 5 from Venezuela. Attack Argentina with 3 from Brazil. Attack Bolivia with 4 from Brazil.

I expect Imp to defend Argentina and maybe try a late move into Bolivia to give himself two spots in SA. My goal this turn is to end up with one target next turn to hit with a big stack from Brazil. The Brazil stack would be 17 next turn with these orders, so we could use the OP to hit with up to 33.

Assuming we want to be sure we get Canada next turn, we'll need between 9 and 11 (depending on how we do on remainder rolls). With only 17 income that leaves 6-8 available to add to the OP attack in SA. If Imp is serious about holding SA, and we'd be foolish to think he isn't, 22-24 probably won't be enough to take out his stack.

I could cut down the attacks into CA to 4s, skip the attacks on Argentina and Bolivia and change the delay transfer to go from Columbia to Brazil. That would add 11 more to our stack in Brazil next turn. Assuming Imp puts 9+ in Argentina, 33-35 might be enough to take him out in one shot. We'd also have another 6 in Columbia that could be thrown in as a 1-2 punch. Alternatively, depending on the what happens next turn, it might make sense to forego Canada for a turn if we think we have a sure thing with the OP to get SA. We could also skip the Nigeria move for another turn although that seems like a popular idea.

SUGGESTED TURN 2 (extreme Brazil stacking for OP attack next turn - weaker attacks into CA this turn):

Deploy 5 to Nunavut, 1 to Nuuk, 5 to Columbia, 11 to Brazil. Attack/transfer to Colombia with 6 armies from Venezuela. Attack/transfer to Brazil with 17 armies from Venezuela. Attack Northwest Territories with 7 from Nunavut. Attack Quebec with 4 from Nuuk. Transfer only 1 from Columbia to Brazil. Attack Nigeria with 4 from Brazil. Attack Panama with 4 from Columbia. Attack Cuba with 4 from Venezuela.

This would get us to 25 in Brazil next turn. It leaves 7 usuable armies in Brazil rather than attacking Boliva and Argentina with them on the premise that Imp will stack to defend Argentina. Even if he puts 100% of his income in Argentina this turn we'll have a sizeable size advantage and an OP card which would make a 1st move stack attack very rewarding.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/21/2011 06:49:33

Eitz 
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I added them both in there for ya Duke, lotta different options to consider this turn...

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/21/2011 13:57:58


Duke 
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Incidentally -- both these suggested plans are very close to what BF described. Attacks into CA/Africa, expansion in Canada and a plan to get SA next turn.

After thinking about it further I've decided I prefer my second option. I think Imp will take the most conservative approach: stack the majority of his defense in Argentina and put the rest toward picking up a bonus.

Next turn will be a big one. Potentially we could go up +9/turn and run away with this one. That's an 11 army/turn edge assuming he has South Africa and earns 15. Of course it's temporary as Imp will get Indo and Australia shortly thereafter, but hopefully we're busting up Africa at that point :)

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/25/2011 06:06:22

Eitz 
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Sorry guys, based on Imp still being on vacation, he hasn't made his turn in our game yet so the next posting will have to be delayed until he gets back.

The Impaller versus The World: Turn 12: 7/25/2011 06:54:49

wolfang230 
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Whats a vacation XD

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