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Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 03:49:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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That one manifestation of fascism doesn't define the entire spectrum of fascist thought

Mussolini was the originator of European fascism

Many people are homeless because of usury.

The 2008 crash was caused by the government messing with interest rates.

showing you're materialism and sociopathy.

Ad hominem

Never said that.

You said this:

Most people are idiots.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 04:45:29


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lol. A Fascist and a radical Muslim working together.

>Implying your ideologies could ever co-exist.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 05:05:32


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No he wasn't, he was merely the first to actualize it.

He formed the first fascist party, and his party were the first to call themselves fascists.

>muh government is responsible for all the evil in the world

So you're saying the fed dindu nuffin? Hah, they lowered interest rates that then created a bubble, which popped in 2008 which wrecked the economy.

You are a materialist, you have no sympathy for others and see shekels as the only benefit to helping those with financial hardship. Anarcho-capitalists are sociopathic Jews.

lol more ad hominem.

Boohoo, your communism can't work because there's no motivation to loan for free, now you have to resort to fallacies and calling me names because you can't beat my argument.

Smedley, anarchism is not the solution.

But a government that kills millions on the regular for them being non-Muslim is? Hah

Anarchism = Chaos

Anarchism: No rulers
Chaos: Void

lol. A Fascist and a radical Muslim working together.

>Implying your ideologies could ever co-exist.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KYV7KWQ-fY4
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 05:19:19


Major General Smedley Butler
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That only supports my point.

This doesn't support your point, this shows that he made up fascism. And therefore he is the person who can most accurately describe fascist economic theory, which is opposed to the free market.

usury

The banning of interest is what happens when you put economic illiterates together to write a holy book.

Its factual, most intellectuals who are anarchists are jews.

Lew Rockwell and Leo Tolstoy don't exist?

communism is materialism

Lol, well you're a materialist then.

materialism and sociopathy

Materialists and sociopaths loan for free? Huh, squiggles must be both then.

lacking rulers creates a power void

lol try filling it when the militaries have been dismantled, there's private security, and the only thing capable of funding an army is a state, of which there would be none.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 06:15:12


Major General Smedley Butler
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No it shows he was the first to actualize it.

There might have been others with similar ideas, like the national socialists, but he was the first fascist and the one that came up with it.

2 examples

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism
projecting

Ad hominem

You're deluding yourself if you think any of these conditions will ever materialize and persist.

>can't argue with those positions
>just says it'll never happen so arguing is pointless

I think this arguments over now. Squiggles is probably asleep, while Karl is using one word as an argument and crying when I don't argue against a single word, and stating that the first man to theorize and actualize fascism can't define all of it.

Conclusion: Fascism is antithetical to the free market, and Karl is an economic illiterate.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 07:01:24


Major General Smedley Butler
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''but he was the first fascist and the one that came up with it.''

false


Italian Fascism (Italian: Fascismo Italiano), also known simply as Fascism (Italian: Fascismo), is the original fascist ideology, as developed in Italy. The ideology is associated with the National Fascist Party, which under Benito Mussolini ruled the Kingdom of Italy from 1922 until 1943, the Republican Fascist Party that ruled the Italian Social Republic from 1943 to 1945, the post-war Italian Social Movement and subsequent Italian neo-fascist movements.


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Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 07:07:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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Preussentum und Sozialismus was written after Mussolini formed his party and called himself a fascist, kek.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 07:11:43


Major General Smedley Butler
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He presented his "fascist" works after Mussolini. So nice work being objectively wrong.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 07:18:03


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Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/7/2016 07:45:56


Major General Smedley Butler
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Mussolini made the fasci party in 1914, rekt
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 05:12:18


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Why are you even arguing about this? Fascism is doomed anyway.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:00:45


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Yup, I see people every day that say, "I'm sick of having a say in who our leader should be."
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:10:56


Major General Smedley Butler
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It won't produce fascists, it'll just produce angry folk. What political ideology they pick, will depend on who's dominant in the anti-current government scene, and that's mostly libertarians, right wing populists, and democratic socialists.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:22:24


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All the ideologies you listed are democratic. People want centralization of power.

No, they don't. They want free crap and someone acting hard on the television to some poor schmuck in another country.

And if you ask citation, please provide one for your claim.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:31:51


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People most certainly want centralization of power. Its evident in the emphasis placed upon the elections of heads of state each yr in various western nations.

They want a authoritarian (economically and socially) leader, yes, but not a lack of elections.
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:42:20


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Most people have misgivings about the electoral process and would most certainly sacrifice it for accountability

The majority of folk that do have these misgivings, oppose a lack of democracy, and want more of it. Look at all the Sandroids/Bern victims. They all call themselves Democratic Socialists, and want more of it along with free stuff.

The Trump supporters, throw a big fit over vote rigging.

Clinton doesn't have supporters.

Also, governments will never be truly accountable, as they get their money either way. If statists think the majority of folk will pay if their government is good, and want to fix it, that's where they should go. Making taxation optional. Then again, that's going into a weird area regarding ideology.

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Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 06:53:39


Жұқтыру
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woah smedley found anuther anachist frend

Taxation is oppression.

Edited 8/8/2016 07:02:57
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 07:04:02


Жұқтыру
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you are you PMed me don't worry I still remember I have good memory
Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 07:06:17


Major General Smedley Butler
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They're a minority and they want centralization of power.

They were a very large minority.

Not because they love democracy but because it threatens Trumps chance of winning.

Or maybe it's because they don't want folk deciding who rules them without their consent.

Only democratic governments are unaccountable

Authoritarian government types are the least accountable government types. What do you if your leader does idiotic stuff? Shut up or die. At least with democracy there's some hope of accountability.

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Why the partisan divide is so large: 8/8/2016 07:06:47


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But having government means you have to have taxes mmm so you are anachrist and atheist, aren't you really, 1416?

Edited 8/8/2016 07:08:23
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