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The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:01:30


Major General Smedley Butler
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How is felinism hyper-authoritarianism? North Korea, Nazi Germany, ISIS and Khmer Rouge are certainly caninist in nature.

Because the state is infinitely powerful and owns all humans. It has power over every facet of your life from age zero to eighteen, is one party (the Felinist party), and can kill/gaol/rob anyone it deems "caninist", which is every darn person who isn't Felinist.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:04:51


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^Under felinism how do you not own yourself? However you do not own your kids.

Because under felinism, you are owned and manufactured by the state. You do not have control over your body, as it is regulated by the state, there is no recourse for injustices committed by the state, and you cannot belong to a ideology considered anti-state, which is everything not Felinist.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:07:41


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Why do you guys both live in a disillusional world and will you ever be sane again?
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:09:50


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^^Authoritarianism is caninist in nature. That's how I define caninism, as the opposite of felinism.

You have called literally every other ideology caninist. If it's not some anti-family hyper statism, it is caninist.

^There will be multiple parties in a hypothetical felinist world, however all will be felinist in nature. Just different flavors of felinism with different economic/social policies.

Authoritarian is a very subjective word, and can apply to everything, from state communist to Anarcho-Capitalism. So of course the ruling party can accuse the other party of that, and boom, down goes all opposition.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:14:57


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Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology
Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology

GOD save the EUSSR!
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:16:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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You are indeed manufactured by the state under felinism. However the state does not own anyone

Except it can modify you at anytime, and you cannot disobey it for 18 years.

There should be no censorship of caninist nonsense

You're willing to go to war with over a billion folk for having Islamic beliefs, but you won't censor folk? BS
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:20:46


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They can decide for themselves. If they want to be caninist it is fine however no caninist can be armed.

So right off, you punish folk for choosing a different ideology than your one ideology.

Also felinist parties can not get other felinist parties prosecuted for caninism

The "Felinist party" in control controls the government and all of it's assets, including your police-bots.

Anarcho-capitalism is a failed ideology

Belguim is a failed state
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:22:33


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Rekt #topkek

Will Smedley ever recover after this?
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:24:36


Major General Smedley Butler
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Hyperstatism is not mandatory in felinism. However anti-family and anti-ethnicity ideology are

Every single ideology except felinism is pro-family.

For example in a felinist society beds made for couples will no longer be produced since there will be no more coupledom. Each house or apartment is only for one individual.

So your private life is regulated intensely by your "libertarian" ideology.

^Not for having Islamic beliefs but for their possible nuclear religious violence.

What about all the other nuclear armed countries that are religious? India and Israel come to mind. You gonna launch a war against both of those?
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:27:05


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Not letting someone be armed is not a punishment in this case

Yes it is, if you pick the wrong ideology, you are barred from certain rights. That's a punishment, and incentive not to be other ideologies.

Also of course felinist robots will make sure that once felinism is in you can not get rid of it. You can have many different policies under felinism but there is no way robots will allow you to recaninize the society.

So there is literally no choice other than felinism. Which is un-democratic, un-free, and authoritarian.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:30:21


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^Hindus and Jews aren't very likely to nuke people for religion.

Weren't a million folk killed by inter-religious violence when India split? And isn't Israel essentially a radical Jewish state?

^This regulation is necessary to ensure the true freedom of individuals from collectivism.

No, it is unfree. You are taking away rights, which is unfree.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:31:56


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Our only solution is feminism. All men are misognists. Black people can't be racist and Belgium actually exists
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:37:24


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Wikipedia tells me only 65% of Israel is irreligious. You're funny https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:37:24


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^We can not allow people to do whatever they want unless what they want do not have negative impact on others.

Having any ideology other than the state prescribed one is defined as negative against other, so you are in effect, a one party and one ideology state. Which is anti-free.

Protecting felinism can make sure that Nazi Germany, ISIS, Soviet Union and North Korea will never be repeated.

Literally all states that have ever existed have been "caninist"(which is essentially anything your personal ideology isn't), which means that these examples of "caninism" are one in a ten thousand examples.

If necessary human genetics should be modified to make felinism natural and caninism unnatural.

So essentially, the government has the right to manipulate your body. Without your consent. Which is violating your property rights.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:49:29


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^^People can vote freedom into nonexistence. That's how Nazis took power.

And it's how the felinists would take power.

We need to make sure that however we vote we never vote away our right to vote

So the only right is to determine how someone else lives their life and what rights are recognized. Funny, I'm pretty sure that's antithetical to rights.

Felinism exists so that individuals can think freely without others forcing their opinions on them.

Unless you're a non-Felinist, then all your rights go out the door.

Nobody is pressured to even accept felinism

Except you lose your ability to protect yourself, and your ability to vote. Which means that state affiliated folk gain more privileges than non-state affiliated folk, giving an incentive to be state affiliated. And folk respond to incentives, which means they'll abandon their ideology for felinism.

In a felinist society robots will be armed while people are largely unarmed

That is an impossible task. I mean, so is practically everything you want, but that one is really.... Actually no it's about as insane as all your other proposals.

There will be no need for humans to be armed any more hence it is not discrimination to prevent caninists from being armed.

So the tools of offense/defense are centralized in the state. How is that pro-free?

Of course the government, military etc in a felinist society will be filled with felinists only.

So the state is a one ideology echo chamber, with hate for any other folk.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 00:58:14


Major General Smedley Butler
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You are free. You do not have the power to make yourself unfree. Felinism breaks your chains. You can not chain yourself again after that since felinism will ensure that chains will not even exist any more.

So I have hundreds of arbitrary limits on my existence, but I'm "free"? Tsh

We do not even need to modify existing humans. Just bar caninists from reproduction and all new-borns will be modified.

So bar 100% of the population from reproduction, and defile the rights of anyone born with experimental surgery. Are you just trying to exterminate humanity?

Future humans will know the fact that there used to be couples but this will be like kingdoms and slavery. All were only in the ancient world.

So all future humans will be drugged up, ideologically the same, neutered, genetically modified to have the same genes, and told everything except this is slavery and awful. This is possibly the most insane dystopian idea I've ever heard, I should write a book with this.
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 01:07:36


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YAFT (Yet Another Felidae Thread) -.-
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 06:06:31


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Hueland join the caninist movement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1I1z0Lz0Q
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 06:21:20


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No lastposting
The EUSSR (RelevantCountryUnion-idae): 8/30/2016 06:23:05


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You're all going crazy. Luckily if you join our union, get our currency (gunk coins) and let our core members suck your money out of you, then you can be enlighten
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