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Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 02:44:09


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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I believe all militant religious groups must be removed from Planet Earth.

Edited 9/21/2016 02:45:39
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:00:44


Жұқтыру
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Tabby, you're an ultra-troll.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:03:22


Benjamin628 
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http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Condemn the Apartheid State of Israel!
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:03:45


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^No. 1416 and Karl are the real trolls.

What I'm doing now is not much different from {{{Paugers}}}, namely creating threads to express my mostly controversial views.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:04:42
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:04:47


Benjamin628 
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I never mentioned anything about trolls in my statement, just facts.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:06:55


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Sure I was talking to Juq.

There is a real reason why militant religious groups need to be banned, namely they usually have motivations secular people and people of other religions do not understand and they may be more reckless than most in terms of ignoring the secular consequences of their actions.

A secular militant group, while evil, does have limits on what it may do since it at least cares about self-preservation while a religious one may do things that can actually threaten the survival of humanity without noticing or caring. What makes religious militant groups dangerous is that unverifiable beliefs makes the concept of certain people significantly different from the rest of humanity that even completely harmless intentions can relatively easily lead to serious harm.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:10:11
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:08:43


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Lol, you're starting to sound like Fairfax now: "We don't know much about them and they're rich, so they must be sex offenders!"
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:10:45


Benjamin628 
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It's kinda sad on me that I feel obliged to reply to that, but anyway:

1. What is the difference between a militant state revolved around a religion and a militant religious group. Basically, what is the difference between IDF and ISIS? One (Two I suppose) is supported by the US government.

2. Why do you say "ban" like words actually mean anything. You can't just ban religion, because similar to why Judaism exists, banning a religion actually strengthens it. You can thank the Babylonians and the National Socialists for your militant state.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:10:59
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:13:00


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^No that's very different. I'm just saying that militant religious groups are inherently dangerous due to their unpredictability, extremely strong motivation and views on reality.

For example a person who sincerely believes that apocalypse will happen in 2017 will not plan for 2018. I personally actually knew one person who changed his actions based on his beliefs in a coming apocalypse.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:13:14
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:13:45


Bane 
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because tabby's life exists only on the forums, where banning = death.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:16:35


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^^IDF was not something created for religious purposes and even right now it is not very religious. The most religious Jews do not serve in the military which actually ironically strengthens the secular population and keeps Israel peaceful. You do not want some weird rabbis who can now get everyone to vote for a candidate to be able to raise an army of Haredim who drive tanks and airplanes. A group of ultra-religious people who form a military/militia for religious reasons is inherently unpredictable and has potential to be very harmful no matter what religion it is from. Religious motivation is the strongest motivation for humans and religious fervor is the strongest fervor among humans. Hence there is no way an unbeliever in a religion can predict what it's believers can potentially do for religious reasons. There is no limit on what people can do for their religions, including suicide, murder, massacres, mass suicide, human sacrifice, religious wars and destruction of the human species.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:20:55
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:21:05


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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^^No that's very different. I'm just saying that militant religious groups are inherently dangerous due to their unpredictability, extremely strong motivation and views on reality.

(This is not cherrypicking; I disregarded the next part because it was an example)
Unpredictability is the same as "We don't know anything about them."
Extremely strong motivation is the same as "They stick to their guns when we challenge them." (Which I forgot to include in my original quote, but that's what Fairfax said).
Views on reality is the same as unpredictability as explained above.
Inherently dangerous is similar to "They must be sex offenders."
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:22:20


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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... tabby you had to edit the OP ... did you even think before creating this thread?
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:26:05


Bane 
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did you play the demo for yooka laylee, mightyspec?
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:26:09


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^But what I said is actually true.

1.Unpredictability: People always do things for religious reasons that won't be done if the religious purpose did not exist. Hence those unfamiliar with the religion may be baffled at why such actions exist. One example is Hajj. There is just no reason so many people would have gathered in such a small place annually if Islam did not exist or did not have the requirement of Hajj. Furthermore people sometimes even do things unrelated to religious texts because they believe they are in contact with a deity and a deity commands him/her to do something (from benign activities such as visiting Charlotte, NC every year on Sep.7th to attacks on people).

2.Extremely strong motivation: In terms of gains and loses heaven is plus infinity while hell is minus infinity. Religious motivation hence inherently exceeds all forms of secular motivations.

3.Views on reality: Views on reality have huge impact on decisions. For example if someone believes that he/she won't be harmed after drinking poison because of faith that person may actually do so. In fact there are indeed such groups in Kentucky. If someone believes that nuking a country will leads to apocalypse and he/she will be admitted into heaven he/she may actually start nuking if he/she can get his/her hands on nukes. People have been doing things out of views on reality all the time, including religious views. Hence views do have huge impact on actions and dangerous beliefs can lead to dangerous actions.

Edited 9/21/2016 03:34:06
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Bane 
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Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:27:25


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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^But what I said is actually true.

1.Unpredictability: People always do things for religious reasons that won't be done if the religious purpose did not exist. Hence those unfamiliar with the religion may be baffled at why such actions exist. One example is Hajj. There is just no reason so many people would have gathered in such a small place annually if Islam did not exist or did not have the requirement of Hajj. Furthermore people sometimes even do things unrelated to religious texts because they believe they are in contact with a deity and a deity commands him/her to do something (from benign activities such as visiting Charlotte, NC every year on Sep.7th to attacks on people).

Same with the Fairfax/EBs case.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:28:08


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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yeah. the ending was such a troll. (and i had to look up where the heck that door opened.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:28:56


Bane 
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i didnt back it at a high enough level for the demo. still excited for it.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 03:32:39


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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... me either one of my friends from school did.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 04:11:33

[FEL]Chatul
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Islamism will be a term humans will remember in this century. The civilized world will finally occupy and disarm most of the conservative Islamic world after which these locations will prosper and become enlightened.

The enlightenment in the Middle East needs to be completed.

Edited 9/21/2016 04:13:45
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 04:12:32


Bane 
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so is twerp, twerp.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 04:17:26


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Islamism will be a term humans will remember in this century. The civilized world will finally occupy and disarm most of the conservative Islamic world after which these locations will prosper and become enlightened.

The enlightenment in the Middle East needs to be completed.

So restating your point in a different way proves my argument wrong?
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 04:18:59


Жұқтыру
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enlightenment in the Middle East needs to be completed.


Liberalism, democracy, and atheism is not an "enlightenment".
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 07:59:41


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Individual freedom is enlightenment.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 08:03:24


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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@Benjamin There is no difference between militant religious states such as Saudi Arabia and militant religious groups such as al-Qaeda. The former is just more powerful and organized.

A ban can be carried out. It is not private religious practices that will be restricted. Instead all restrictions are solely on political arms of religious groups.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 09:06:17


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Still ignoring my posts I see.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 10:09:30


Von Jewburg
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Sic your kakapo on him
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 10:13:29


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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A kakapo is a bird.
Ban militant religious groups from planet Earth: 9/21/2016 10:28:50


Von Jewburg
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I know.
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