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I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:14:58


AbsolutelyEthan 
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and said consequences were completely wiped when he whined enough :)
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:19:18


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Not really, insane bane. He isn't allowed to use alts and he was banned for a while.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:28:46


Major General Smedley Butler
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No alts: A consequence
Banning: A consequence

Fizzers rule is arbitrary, similar to a tyrant, but he's still the one who hands out punishments. Not fop dandies like ps.

Edited 9/25/2016 02:29:05
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:35:29


Major General Smedley Butler
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''No alts: A consequence''

nope

"Banning: A consequence''

1 day isn't a consequence


Definition of consequence:
a result or effect of an action or condition.


Shred spammed and was caught, as a result he cannot use alts and was banned for a day.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:48:39


AbsolutelyEthan 
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The only real punishment is us having to read that "apology"


Also, what was his excuse for spamming again? To test the mods? Who the hell does he think he is?
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:49:51


Major General Smedley Butler
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yes he can

It was dictated to him that he could not and he is following it. That is a result of his actions and hence a consequence.

''was banned for a day.''

big whoop


It matters not the severity of the consequence, just if it is a consequence or not, and since it is a result of his actions, it is.

Also, what was his excuse for spamming again? To test the mods? Who the hell does he think he is?

I think it was him just trolling.

Edited 9/25/2016 02:50:43
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:53:40


Жұқтыру
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who is frankly shielding Shredtail2 at this point? He did something terrible that if he just used his brain a bit more or was more careful, wouldn't be punished for it. A day should be fine for most Warlight players, though - no need to harm others in FFAs and teamgames.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:57:00


Major General Smedley Butler
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nope he can get around it

Do you even understand the meaning of the word consequence?

who is frankly shielding Shredtail2 at this point? He did something terrible that if he just used his brain a bit more or was more careful, wouldn't be punished for it. A day should be fine for most Warlight players, though - no need to harm others in FFAs and teamgames.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't have been punished; I'm saying that fop folk like ps aren't helping or doing good by saying spammer on his threads.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 02:58:36


AbsolutelyEthan 
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I think it was him just trolling.


ahh so his apology *was* a troll
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I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:01:36


Major General Smedley Butler
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I think it was him just trolling.


ahh so his apology *was* a troll


No I'm saying that he was probably just trolling. Funny how two spammer trolls thinks they have an moral obligation to shame others for it.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:04:15


Жұқтыру
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I'm saying that fop folk like ps aren't helping or doing good by saying spammer


is that their point? hardly anything "good" gets done on the forum.

you definitely weren't egging him on, were you, Juq?


Oh, I was, and I loved it. Call me a sadist of kinds.

you don't attack Fissel


to be fair, Fissel doesn't really do like a human does. When someone did call him a troll, he said "I refute your statement. I'm not a troll.". While shredtail, uh, he's much more human.

Edited 9/25/2016 03:05:04
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I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:07:43


Жұқтыру
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Shred can understand what we're saying and perhaps believe or agree with it. Less so with goblins.

who's attacking shred at all anyway? Attacking =/ criticising

Edited 9/25/2016 03:17:17
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I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:32:49

wct
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wct, you have shot yourself in the foot quite nicely. You do realize that Shred has already had consequences, right?

Have you read any of the links I posted? Particularly on the Prisoner's Dilemma?
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:38:59

wct
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It matters not the severity of the consequence, just if it is a consequence or not, and since it is a result of his actions, it is.

This is incorrect. The diagram is just a visual aid, it doesn't contain all the details.

In fact, the relative payoffs (positive or negative) of the various interactions is an important part of the Prisoner's Dilemma. Indeed, they are what make it a dilemma in the first place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

For a simple short intro (again, you should probably read the article for a fuller understanding):

Prisoner's Dilemma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Lo2fgxWHw
The Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma and The Evolution of Cooperation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOvAbjfJ0x0

Edited 9/25/2016 03:49:55
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:40:27


Major General Smedley Butler
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This is incorrect. The diagram is just a visual aid, it doesn't contain all the details.

It isn't incorrect, Karl's arguing it's not a consequence when by definition it is.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:49:41


AbsolutelyEthan 
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I am the most morally just person on this website. Fact.
I need some feedback on something: 9/25/2016 03:55:53

wct
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It isn't incorrect, Karl's arguing it's not a consequence when by definition it is.

Ah. Well, in any case, for the purposes of what I was talking about, the severity of the consequence is a critical factor.
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